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Middle East/All : Klussendorf Machines

 

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papakuma

28 Dec 2018
09:48:31pm
Those of us in America are sometimes not privy to all the information that might be available in Israel. Example in point: the Klussendorf postal labels of the 1990's are said to have involved 46 separate distributing machines. For example machine number 008 was located in Tel Aviv. Does anyone have knowledge regarding the various specific locations of these machines?Image Not Found

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05 Jan 2019
07:01:17pm
re: Klussendorf Machines

I have a collection of nearly all the numbers from this series and can identify most of the machines.

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papakuma

22 Jan 2019
05:00:52pm
re: Klussendorf Machines

Would you be willing to share that information?

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23 Jan 2019
08:40:59am
re: Klussendorf Machines

This would be a great article or at least a fuller DB piece for just these Israeli labels.

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23 Jan 2019
05:19:00pm
re: Klussendorf Machines

This is quite complex.

For the first definitive Klussendorf issue there were 45 machines, and 5 paper types. Not all paper types with various phosphor bands were used in all machines. The published literature is often contradictory or difficult to understand

Moriah 2013 lists the numbers and paper types in a detailed but complex table.
Bale also lists 45 machines and some different descriptions of the paper types.

There is also the debate about "short" sets of 3 labels or "long" sets of 6 labels.

Very few collectors have every label in all the values as there were many and often were hard to find.Some were postally used, some were philatellic on FDC.
One major collector in Israel who is well known to me over a long time frame and sent me many labels, but he is not on this forum, and had good knowledge of the system missed some of the machines because of the inaccessibility of the labels.
I know I was one of a few collectors that he sent material, and that most of us still never got everything in 1990 when the labels were issued. Also because of the quantity the cost quickly rocketed. However some of the issues are still very collectible and difficult to find even though there are a few specialists in this field.

Following this issue came the Town series , Xmas series, Framas, Masad issues, and Sima or Doarmat issues, with the latest Xmas Sima issued in December 2018.

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papakuma

28 Dec 2018
09:48:31pm

Those of us in America are sometimes not privy to all the information that might be available in Israel. Example in point: the Klussendorf postal labels of the 1990's are said to have involved 46 separate distributing machines. For example machine number 008 was located in Tel Aviv. Does anyone have knowledge regarding the various specific locations of these machines?Image Not Found

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05 Jan 2019
07:01:17pm

re: Klussendorf Machines

I have a collection of nearly all the numbers from this series and can identify most of the machines.

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papakuma

22 Jan 2019
05:00:52pm

re: Klussendorf Machines

Would you be willing to share that information?

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amsd

Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
23 Jan 2019
08:40:59am

re: Klussendorf Machines

This would be a great article or at least a fuller DB piece for just these Israeli labels.

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"Save the USPS, buy stamps; save the hobby, use commemoratives"

juicyheads.com/link. ...
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triangle

23 Jan 2019
05:19:00pm

re: Klussendorf Machines

This is quite complex.

For the first definitive Klussendorf issue there were 45 machines, and 5 paper types. Not all paper types with various phosphor bands were used in all machines. The published literature is often contradictory or difficult to understand

Moriah 2013 lists the numbers and paper types in a detailed but complex table.
Bale also lists 45 machines and some different descriptions of the paper types.

There is also the debate about "short" sets of 3 labels or "long" sets of 6 labels.

Very few collectors have every label in all the values as there were many and often were hard to find.Some were postally used, some were philatellic on FDC.
One major collector in Israel who is well known to me over a long time frame and sent me many labels, but he is not on this forum, and had good knowledge of the system missed some of the machines because of the inaccessibility of the labels.
I know I was one of a few collectors that he sent material, and that most of us still never got everything in 1990 when the labels were issued. Also because of the quantity the cost quickly rocketed. However some of the issues are still very collectible and difficult to find even though there are a few specialists in this field.

Following this issue came the Town series , Xmas series, Framas, Masad issues, and Sima or Doarmat issues, with the latest Xmas Sima issued in December 2018.

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