What we collect!

 

Stamporama Discussion Board Logo
For People Who Love To Talk About Stamps
Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
Stamporama Discussion Board Logo
For People Who Love To Talk About Stamps
Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
Stamporama Discussion Board Logo
For People Who Love To Talk About Stamps



What we collect!
What we collect!


United States/Covers & Postmarks : First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

 

Author
Postings
loki

14 Mar 2019
04:09:18pm
I'm confused. I have a collection from Grandma (who got it from a brother-in-law of her's) mainly from the 60's and 70's. I was looking to sell it. So I started looking up values - and found that they are not that high. But I saw that Ebay and some other listers put their First Day Covers and other canceled-on-special-date covers as Mint or Mint-never-hinged. How can this be? Aren't canceled stamps all categorized as used?
Like
Login to Like
this post
angore
Members Picture


Al
Collector, Moderator

14 Mar 2019
04:20:40pm
re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

The reality is that most US stamps issued after 1950 are not worth very much especially when you want to dispose of a collection. Used are worth even less. You can buy US unused below FACE value. There are just too many still around. You will usually get more if you dispose of them individually since a dealer will never pay much for them. There are exceptions.

Condition is important too. How have they been stored, etc. Scott prices stamps in VF condition for most stamps but many stamps sold do not meet this as well.

Catalog prices is lesson since one would think they are worth more looking at a catalog price. The fact that Scott lists a stamp still on sale at the PO at 2x face value shows what in going on.

You see it on ebay all the time where high catalog value is quoted and sell well below. This means they buy even lower.

You could have better luck at a local stamp club since some collectors will pay more than a traditional dealer.

Like
Login to Like
this post

"Stamp Collecting is a many splendored thing"
loki

14 Mar 2019
06:45:05pm
re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

I do already know the sad truth in your response. Thanks for taking the time to post and it will probably help others. But I was not asking about values or how to sell these. The wording in my posting was probably a little misleading. I'm actually going to sell cheap to someone who will appreciate them or the history they represent as most of these commemorate historical events - or give them to a kid who might like them as a starting collection. But the question was what do these terms mean when used for covers - which are canceled? Seems like they are misused, but maybe I have missed some definitions (I have looked up stamp collecting terms). Now if Neil Armstrong signed the moon landing covers...

Like
Login to Like
this post
angore
Members Picture


Al
Collector, Moderator

14 Mar 2019
07:57:37pm
re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

I have no idea why someone would put classify a cover with a stamp (whether ceremonial or saw postal use) as Mint / Never Hinged unless for some reason they thought it needed some grade.

Here is another thread on how covers can be graded.

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=3019

Like
Login to Like
this post

"Stamp Collecting is a many splendored thing"
sheepshanks
Members Picture


14 Mar 2019
08:07:17pm

Approvals
re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

Is it possible that the "mint" refers to the condition of the cover and not that of the stamps themselves. Basically saying that the cover envelope is in a pristine state with no defects.
Could you post a link to what you saw on Ebay.

Like
Login to Like
this post
loki

15 Mar 2019
12:32:51pm
re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

I've pretty much decided that this is a misrepresentation or possibly an honest mistake (people don't understand the terminology). Ebay has these categories set up - even in the first-day-covers category - and people might think that's what they have if it looks in great shape. But Mint and Mint-Never-Hinged really don't apply to them.

Like
Login to Like
this post
parkinlot
Members Picture


Immediate Past President - West Essex Philatelic Society www.wepsonline.org

15 Mar 2019
01:39:11pm
re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

I have actually purchased collections where FDC's are hinged onto pages. I should start listing all my FDC's as unhinged now. Happy

Like 
1 Member
likes this post.
Login to Like.

"APS - AFDCS - GBCC - USSS - SCC - IPDA"

www.hipstamp.com/store/parkinlot-stamps-collectibles
BenFranklin1902
Members Picture


Tom in Exton, PA

16 Mar 2019
08:34:43pm
re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

"I have actually purchased collections where FDC's are hinged onto pages. I should start listing all my FDC's as unhinged now."



I was just thinking that... I have older covers that have hinges or hinge marks on the backs from being placed in albums. In fact my zep covers have them!
Like
Login to Like
this post

"Check out my eBay Stuff! Username Turtles-Trading-Post"
        

 

Author/Postings
loki

14 Mar 2019
04:09:18pm

I'm confused. I have a collection from Grandma (who got it from a brother-in-law of her's) mainly from the 60's and 70's. I was looking to sell it. So I started looking up values - and found that they are not that high. But I saw that Ebay and some other listers put their First Day Covers and other canceled-on-special-date covers as Mint or Mint-never-hinged. How can this be? Aren't canceled stamps all categorized as used?

Like
Login to Like
this post
Members Picture
angore

Al
Collector, Moderator
14 Mar 2019
04:20:40pm

re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

The reality is that most US stamps issued after 1950 are not worth very much especially when you want to dispose of a collection. Used are worth even less. You can buy US unused below FACE value. There are just too many still around. You will usually get more if you dispose of them individually since a dealer will never pay much for them. There are exceptions.

Condition is important too. How have they been stored, etc. Scott prices stamps in VF condition for most stamps but many stamps sold do not meet this as well.

Catalog prices is lesson since one would think they are worth more looking at a catalog price. The fact that Scott lists a stamp still on sale at the PO at 2x face value shows what in going on.

You see it on ebay all the time where high catalog value is quoted and sell well below. This means they buy even lower.

You could have better luck at a local stamp club since some collectors will pay more than a traditional dealer.

Like
Login to Like
this post

"Stamp Collecting is a many splendored thing"
loki

14 Mar 2019
06:45:05pm

re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

I do already know the sad truth in your response. Thanks for taking the time to post and it will probably help others. But I was not asking about values or how to sell these. The wording in my posting was probably a little misleading. I'm actually going to sell cheap to someone who will appreciate them or the history they represent as most of these commemorate historical events - or give them to a kid who might like them as a starting collection. But the question was what do these terms mean when used for covers - which are canceled? Seems like they are misused, but maybe I have missed some definitions (I have looked up stamp collecting terms). Now if Neil Armstrong signed the moon landing covers...

Like
Login to Like
this post
Members Picture
angore

Al
Collector, Moderator
14 Mar 2019
07:57:37pm

re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

I have no idea why someone would put classify a cover with a stamp (whether ceremonial or saw postal use) as Mint / Never Hinged unless for some reason they thought it needed some grade.

Here is another thread on how covers can be graded.

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=3019

Like
Login to Like
this post

"Stamp Collecting is a many splendored thing"
Members Picture
sheepshanks

14 Mar 2019
08:07:17pm

Approvals

re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

Is it possible that the "mint" refers to the condition of the cover and not that of the stamps themselves. Basically saying that the cover envelope is in a pristine state with no defects.
Could you post a link to what you saw on Ebay.

Like
Login to Like
this post
loki

15 Mar 2019
12:32:51pm

re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

I've pretty much decided that this is a misrepresentation or possibly an honest mistake (people don't understand the terminology). Ebay has these categories set up - even in the first-day-covers category - and people might think that's what they have if it looks in great shape. But Mint and Mint-Never-Hinged really don't apply to them.

Like
Login to Like
this post

Immediate Past President - West Essex Philatelic Society www.wepsonline.org
15 Mar 2019
01:39:11pm

re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

I have actually purchased collections where FDC's are hinged onto pages. I should start listing all my FDC's as unhinged now. Happy

Like 
1 Member
likes this post.
Login to Like.

"APS - AFDCS - GBCC - USSS - SCC - IPDA"

www.hipstamp.com/sto ...
Members Picture
BenFranklin1902

Tom in Exton, PA
16 Mar 2019
08:34:43pm

re: First Day (or other) Covers and the Mint and Mint Never Hinged Quality Categories

"I have actually purchased collections where FDC's are hinged onto pages. I should start listing all my FDC's as unhinged now."



I was just thinking that... I have older covers that have hinges or hinge marks on the backs from being placed in albums. In fact my zep covers have them!
Like
Login to Like
this post

"Check out my eBay Stuff! Username Turtles-Trading-Post"
        

Contact Webmaster | Visitors Online | Unsubscribe Emails | Facebook


User Agreement

Copyright © 2024 Stamporama.com