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Oceania/Australia : Thin and Thick paper used

 

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Pooh

22 Mar 2019
10:07:17pm
Could someone please explain what is Thin and Thick paper used for stamps?? Does anyone have any examples they can put up to show us as a example???

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22 Mar 2019
11:11:58pm
re: Thin and Thick paper used

Pooh

Late in 1912 (earliest seen 24 Dec 1912) the 1d Pictorials were printed as an emergency issue because of a possible delay to the issue of the Australia Kangaroo & Map series. This was done on thin paper.

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I have scanned the back of a normal print (left) and thin paper print (right) and the watermark stands out very clearly on the thin paper.

To accurately identify if you have thin paper you need a measure (micrometer??) to gauge the thickness, with the Pictorials they stand out as shown.

Richard

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Pooh

23 Mar 2019
12:38:28am
re: Thin and Thick paper used

I don't have a micrometer so I can understand this better, thin paper you can see the watermark alot clearer?? At the moment it is not worth me getting a micrometer as I'm just understanding all the different varieties of stamps. Are any NSW 2d Sesqui stamps on thin paper?

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23 Mar 2019
01:02:55am
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Pooh

My scan is for the Tasmanian Pictorials thin paper, not sure about the later Australian printings.

Tasnaki

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Pooh

23 Mar 2019
01:56:51am
re: Thin and Thick paper used

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23 Mar 2019
08:10:02am
re: Thin and Thick paper used

Hi Pooh

"Are any NSW 2d Sesqui stamps on thin paper?"


No Sesquicentennial stamps were issued on thin paper, the first issue of a thin paper for the King George VI reign was the 1939 1d Queen Elizabeth printed on very thin paper (pelure paper) shown below.

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Pooh

23 Mar 2019
04:09:48pm
re: Thin and Thick paper used

Thankyou for the information. I posted something earlier about a part border line missing on a stamp Could you please give me some information about this please

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24 Mar 2019
12:55:54pm
re: Thin and Thick paper used

Thin Paper

The first thin paper variety occurred in the Queen Elizabeth 1d green (Die II) early in 1939, and again the thin paper was found on a number of issues in the late 1940s and early 1950s. Normal paper thickness (including gum) can be considered to vary between 0.083mm to 0.091mm. The thin paper varieties generally gauge between 0.070mm and 0.075mm, the thinnest varieties have a semi-pelure quality (shown above in earlier post).

Thin paper stamps characteristically have the design clearly visible from the back, but this feature should not be used as the sole determinant, since normal thickness paper varied in translucency. Measurement by micrometer is essential. The later occurrences of thin paper suggest that at least one full consignment of paper was manufactured thinner than usual.

Thin stamps recorded in the ACSC are:

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1d green Queen Elizabeth printed on very thin pelure paper (Die II)

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£1 dull blue Coronation

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5/- Tinted paper (reddish-lake) Coronation. The tinted paper comes from the first printing in September 1947 and issued in January 1948. The tinting was caused by the use of an ink that was strongly absorbent, with the result that the paper became "tinted" in appearance.

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1/6 dull claret Hermes

Currently unavailable

2½d scarlet KGVI


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3½d blue KGVI

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3d red KGVI

Currently unavailable

3½d purple-brown KGVI


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7½d KGVI

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1/0½d KGVI

The Hereford Bull thin stamp may not exist as this stamp has never been seen.

1/3d Hereford Bull


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2/- Aboriginal Art

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5/- Coat-of-Arms

Currently unavailable

£1 Coat-of-Arms


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£2 Coat-of-Arms

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2½d Pan-American Scout Jubilee

Currently unavailable

2½d Lord Forrest


Other thin paper varieties currently unlisted in the Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue which I have in my collection are:

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5½d slate blue emu (only one currently known).

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£2 green Coat-of-Arms with roller flaw - roller flaw shown at right (only 2 exist).

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4½d red KGVI


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Pooh

22 Mar 2019
10:07:17pm

Could someone please explain what is Thin and Thick paper used for stamps?? Does anyone have any examples they can put up to show us as a example???

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Tasnaki

22 Mar 2019
11:11:58pm

re: Thin and Thick paper used

Pooh

Late in 1912 (earliest seen 24 Dec 1912) the 1d Pictorials were printed as an emergency issue because of a possible delay to the issue of the Australia Kangaroo & Map series. This was done on thin paper.

Image Not Found

I have scanned the back of a normal print (left) and thin paper print (right) and the watermark stands out very clearly on the thin paper.

To accurately identify if you have thin paper you need a measure (micrometer??) to gauge the thickness, with the Pictorials they stand out as shown.

Richard

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Pooh

23 Mar 2019
12:38:28am

re: Thin and Thick paper used

I don't have a micrometer so I can understand this better, thin paper you can see the watermark alot clearer?? At the moment it is not worth me getting a micrometer as I'm just understanding all the different varieties of stamps. Are any NSW 2d Sesqui stamps on thin paper?

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Tasnaki

23 Mar 2019
01:02:55am

re: Thin and Thick paper used

Pooh

My scan is for the Tasmanian Pictorials thin paper, not sure about the later Australian printings.

Tasnaki

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Pooh

23 Mar 2019
01:56:51am

re: Thin and Thick paper used

Thankyou

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My clan Coat-of-Arms Scotland
23 Mar 2019
08:10:02am

re: Thin and Thick paper used

Hi Pooh

"Are any NSW 2d Sesqui stamps on thin paper?"


No Sesquicentennial stamps were issued on thin paper, the first issue of a thin paper for the King George VI reign was the 1939 1d Queen Elizabeth printed on very thin paper (pelure paper) shown below.

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Rob



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Pooh

23 Mar 2019
04:09:48pm

re: Thin and Thick paper used

Thankyou for the information. I posted something earlier about a part border line missing on a stamp Could you please give me some information about this please

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Lochanbar Station
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Rob1956

My clan Coat-of-Arms Scotland
24 Mar 2019
12:55:54pm

re: Thin and Thick paper used

Thin Paper

The first thin paper variety occurred in the Queen Elizabeth 1d green (Die II) early in 1939, and again the thin paper was found on a number of issues in the late 1940s and early 1950s. Normal paper thickness (including gum) can be considered to vary between 0.083mm to 0.091mm. The thin paper varieties generally gauge between 0.070mm and 0.075mm, the thinnest varieties have a semi-pelure quality (shown above in earlier post).

Thin paper stamps characteristically have the design clearly visible from the back, but this feature should not be used as the sole determinant, since normal thickness paper varied in translucency. Measurement by micrometer is essential. The later occurrences of thin paper suggest that at least one full consignment of paper was manufactured thinner than usual.

Thin stamps recorded in the ACSC are:

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1d green Queen Elizabeth printed on very thin pelure paper (Die II)

Image Not Found

£1 dull blue Coronation

Image Not Found

5/- Tinted paper (reddish-lake) Coronation. The tinted paper comes from the first printing in September 1947 and issued in January 1948. The tinting was caused by the use of an ink that was strongly absorbent, with the result that the paper became "tinted" in appearance.

Image Not Found

1/6 dull claret Hermes

Currently unavailable

2½d scarlet KGVI


Image Not Found

3½d blue KGVI

Image Not Found

3d red KGVI

Currently unavailable

3½d purple-brown KGVI


Image Not FoundI

7½d KGVI

Image Not Found

1/0½d KGVI

The Hereford Bull thin stamp may not exist as this stamp has never been seen.

1/3d Hereford Bull


Image Not Found

2/- Aboriginal Art

Image Not Found

5/- Coat-of-Arms

Currently unavailable

£1 Coat-of-Arms


Image Not Found

£2 Coat-of-Arms

Image Not Found

2½d Pan-American Scout Jubilee

Currently unavailable

2½d Lord Forrest


Other thin paper varieties currently unlisted in the Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue which I have in my collection are:

Image Not Found

5½d slate blue emu (only one currently known).

Image Not Found Image Not Found

£2 green Coat-of-Arms with roller flaw - roller flaw shown at right (only 2 exist).

Image Not Found

4½d red KGVI


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