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all postmarks is fake...
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OK, I'll bite.
How did you determine that the postmarks are fake?
-Paul
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10:03:29pm
An excellent question.
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05:31:41pm
Yes, a whole week and no response.
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Post marks look strange.
1. The post mark circle shape should be a little bigger.
2. The rectangular shape post mark shouldn't be use because it indicate postal HQ. only.
3. During 1900 ERA, fake post mark were common & this one is likely to be fake too.
I'm not an expert on Chinese stamps, it's just my guess because I have seen millions of chinese mails, post cards & packages
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05:54:44pm
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I'm not an expert on Chinese stamps, it's just my guess
because I have seen millions of Chinese mails, post cards
& packages ,,,,"
And you are most likely right.
Usually when someone offers a broad brush opinion possibly
expecting it to be accepted as a definitive answer they
include some supporting explanation just as you did.
Anyone familiar with the turmoil in China pre-1949 as
wars developed between the Central Government and the
early 1900 war-lords, and between war-lords themselves,
followed by strife between the Japanese invaders and
the nationalist and Communist forces throughout China
knows that as forces advanced and retreated postal
facilities and supplies fell into the hands of the
victor and were abandoned by the loser, the postal
situation was dicey on a good day.
Add to tha,t the probability that some clever fellows
added overprints to abandoned stamp inventory and you
have what appears to be more bogus stamps than genuine.
False cancellations, or more correctly the genuine
cancellations applied to stamps that were not properly
issued or used, or were used in the wrong towns during
incorrect and impossible dates.
Then to complicate things, I believe I read a note in
the Ma catalog that at times a postal official, having
no correct canceler, simply obliterated the stamp with
what was at hand and sent a letter on its merry way.
Here an expert would see the wrong applied cancellation
and declared it false, not knowing that the wrong cancel
was used to overcome the absence of a correct cancelling
device.
That is why I wondered just how the member had determined
that "All cancels (On this postcard ????) are fake?
Someone once spoke what is the greatest understatement
of all times, "War is Hell."
On a good day, it is Hell. When things go wrong words
usually fail us.
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11:36:33pm
re: Fake postmark, Genuine postcard
all postmarks is fake...
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08:57:20am
re: Fake postmark, Genuine postcard
OK, I'll bite.
How did you determine that the postmarks are fake?
-Paul
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
14 Jun 2019
10:03:29pm
re: Fake postmark, Genuine postcard
An excellent question.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
23 Apr 2020
05:31:41pm
re: Fake postmark, Genuine postcard
Yes, a whole week and no response.
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re: Fake postmark, Genuine postcard
Post marks look strange.
1. The post mark circle shape should be a little bigger.
2. The rectangular shape post mark shouldn't be use because it indicate postal HQ. only.
3. During 1900 ERA, fake post mark were common & this one is likely to be fake too.
I'm not an expert on Chinese stamps, it's just my guess because I have seen millions of chinese mails, post cards & packages
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
26 Apr 2020
05:54:44pm
re: Fake postmark, Genuine postcard
"....
I'm not an expert on Chinese stamps, it's just my guess
because I have seen millions of Chinese mails, post cards
& packages ,,,,"
And you are most likely right.
Usually when someone offers a broad brush opinion possibly
expecting it to be accepted as a definitive answer they
include some supporting explanation just as you did.
Anyone familiar with the turmoil in China pre-1949 as
wars developed between the Central Government and the
early 1900 war-lords, and between war-lords themselves,
followed by strife between the Japanese invaders and
the nationalist and Communist forces throughout China
knows that as forces advanced and retreated postal
facilities and supplies fell into the hands of the
victor and were abandoned by the loser, the postal
situation was dicey on a good day.
Add to tha,t the probability that some clever fellows
added overprints to abandoned stamp inventory and you
have what appears to be more bogus stamps than genuine.
False cancellations, or more correctly the genuine
cancellations applied to stamps that were not properly
issued or used, or were used in the wrong towns during
incorrect and impossible dates.
Then to complicate things, I believe I read a note in
the Ma catalog that at times a postal official, having
no correct canceler, simply obliterated the stamp with
what was at hand and sent a letter on its merry way.
Here an expert would see the wrong applied cancellation
and declared it false, not knowing that the wrong cancel
was used to overcome the absence of a correct cancelling
device.
That is why I wondered just how the member had determined
that "All cancels (On this postcard ????) are fake?
Someone once spoke what is the greatest understatement
of all times, "War is Hell."
On a good day, it is Hell. When things go wrong words
usually fail us.
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