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keesindy
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11 Aug 2019
11:23:02pm
Can someone provide a current catalog value?

Sudan Scott #78 used
Sudan Scott #77 unused OG
Sudan Scott #76 unused OG

Thank you!

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16 Aug 2019
12:03:55am
re: Sudan catalog values please

I am still hoping someone can help with my original request.

I am also looking for catalog values for the following four items:

Sudan Scott #95 unused
Sudan Scott #96 unused
Sudan Scott #97 unused

Sudan 1961 King Tirhiqah souvenir sheet

This sheet doesn't have a Scott catalog number in my 1991 volume 1 catalog, but the catalog does include a note about the sheet after Sudan #118.

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16 Aug 2019
01:24:24am
re: Sudan catalog values please

Tom:

I'm afraid my most recent is a 2017 Scott, but until someone else comes along with newer info:

Sudan Scott #78 used: $45.00
Sudan Scott #77 unused OG: $57.50
Sudan Scott #76 unused OG: $ 15.00

Note that nh catalog values begin with #79.

Sudan Scott #95 unused: $0.50
Sudan Scott #96 unused: $0.75
Sudan Scott #97 unused: $1.50

Sudan 1961 King Tirhiqah souvenir sheet:

(I bet you meant after Scott #138, rather than #118.)

It still does not have a catalog number, but is given a value of $9.

Here is the complete footnote:

"An imperf. souvenir sheet exists, not sold at post offices, containing one each of Nos. 136-138. Size: 154x97mm. The sheet was not issued for postal purposes and cancellation requests are declined. Value $9."

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17 Aug 2019
08:43:19am
re: Sudan catalog values please

Thanks for the info, Dave. Yes, I meant #138. The 2017 information works for me! I appreciate your help.

I've got a current Scott Classic Specialized catalog that serves my needs 99.9% of the time. For the few post 1940 items I have, I could in the past visit any of four library branches within a few miles of home. Each library branch had been receiving a complete new set of the Scott standard catalog every year for many years. Recent budget problems forced the city library to re-evaluate their practices. Instead of doing the sensible thing and buying a couple of standard catalog sets each year that could be circulated to the various branches for use, they're now buying a single copy of the standard catalog instead of a dozen or more. Making matters even worse, that single copy is kept on reserve status at Central Library downtown. Basically, it's inaccessible to the vast majority of collectors in the county. And, worse still, the "old" 2018 catalog sets that were in the various branches are now gone from most branches as well!!! Effective budgeting and customer service are not the strong suits for this (mis)management team. Very frustrating from a philatelist's and a taxpayer's perspective!

Tom

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18 Aug 2019
12:58:56am
re: Sudan catalog values please

Happy to anytime, Tom, as long as the 2017 info is good enough. I'm hoping to *maybe* be able to get a new set next year. Maybe.

I moved several years ago, and before that, there was a charming little municipal library within walking distance that updated their Scotts every year. It was a pleasure to stroll over there.

Then I moved to a more distant suburb, and the municipal library here that would also be within walking distance (but not really a pleasant stroll -- more of a slog along a busy street) hasn't updated their set in perhaps 10 years or so. And I do understand why. If the catalogs aren't seeing a lot of use, that's big money that could go to so many other subjects, especially to help students with their schoolwork.

Fortunately, there are a couple of libraries in neighboring towns who do keep up-to-date sets, but it's about 20 minutes by car in either direction and neither is part of my normal "route" for errands and the like. So I rely on my current set until I build up a long enough list of burning questions to justify the time and the gas for the trip.

Anyway, anytime I can help, I'm happy to!

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18 Aug 2019
06:26:18am
re: Sudan catalog values please

Do you think values change that much to warrant a new set?

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18 Aug 2019
10:49:46pm
re: Sudan catalog values please

Angore, if you're asking me and referring to our local library system, I don't think a new set is absolutely necessary every year, but here is what I will recommend to our library management team.

I'll suggest they buy 2 or 3 sets each year instead of the old practice of buying up to 24 catalog sets each year. The old practice was insane and guess what! They discovered 2-3 years ago they had severe budget problems. Go figure. This year, the library management team bought a single copy for the library system and is keeping it on reserve at Central Branch downtown. They refuse to let it circulate to the branches for use within the branches.

I'll recommend they purchase three copies. However, if I can convince them to give up that archaic practice of keeping a copy on reserve downtown, then I'll recommend the purchase of two circulating copies each year.

We have four branches within 3-4 miles of our home. Prior to this year, each has had a current set of Scott standard catalogues every year for at least the past 12-15 years, and probably for many year before I began visiting the branches to access the catalogues.

The library has a good database system now and a circulation system that allows quick transfers of volumes between the branches.

Users don't always need the current catalogue set. My suggestion will be that they keep the older catalogue sets for 1 to 2 years and have them available along with the current set(s). Users could go online or visit any branch and request that a catalogue volume be sent to a particular branch. Since I would be recommending no more than two circulating catalogue sets for the library system, I will also recommend the library not allow the current catalogue volumes to be checked out by patrons. Keep them in the branches so they can be shuttled quickly to another branch when called for. Allow only the older sets to be checked out. If they were to purchase two new catalogue sets each year and retain each set for three years, we would have six sets available in the system each year.

We've clearly had a case here of the library management team making decisions without understanding how the catalogue sets are used. I hope to enlighten them!

Angore, I suspect the Scott paper catalogues will disappear before too long. If Scott goes to a cloud-based subscription of some sort, I don't know how that would work for either individuals or municipal library systems. It will get interesting!

Tom

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11 Aug 2019
11:23:02pm

Can someone provide a current catalog value?

Sudan Scott #78 used
Sudan Scott #77 unused OG
Sudan Scott #76 unused OG

Thank you!

Tom

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16 Aug 2019
12:03:55am

re: Sudan catalog values please

I am still hoping someone can help with my original request.

I am also looking for catalog values for the following four items:

Sudan Scott #95 unused
Sudan Scott #96 unused
Sudan Scott #97 unused

Sudan 1961 King Tirhiqah souvenir sheet

This sheet doesn't have a Scott catalog number in my 1991 volume 1 catalog, but the catalog does include a note about the sheet after Sudan #118.

Thank you!

Tom

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16 Aug 2019
01:24:24am

re: Sudan catalog values please

Tom:

I'm afraid my most recent is a 2017 Scott, but until someone else comes along with newer info:

Sudan Scott #78 used: $45.00
Sudan Scott #77 unused OG: $57.50
Sudan Scott #76 unused OG: $ 15.00

Note that nh catalog values begin with #79.

Sudan Scott #95 unused: $0.50
Sudan Scott #96 unused: $0.75
Sudan Scott #97 unused: $1.50

Sudan 1961 King Tirhiqah souvenir sheet:

(I bet you meant after Scott #138, rather than #118.)

It still does not have a catalog number, but is given a value of $9.

Here is the complete footnote:

"An imperf. souvenir sheet exists, not sold at post offices, containing one each of Nos. 136-138. Size: 154x97mm. The sheet was not issued for postal purposes and cancellation requests are declined. Value $9."

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17 Aug 2019
08:43:19am

re: Sudan catalog values please

Thanks for the info, Dave. Yes, I meant #138. The 2017 information works for me! I appreciate your help.

I've got a current Scott Classic Specialized catalog that serves my needs 99.9% of the time. For the few post 1940 items I have, I could in the past visit any of four library branches within a few miles of home. Each library branch had been receiving a complete new set of the Scott standard catalog every year for many years. Recent budget problems forced the city library to re-evaluate their practices. Instead of doing the sensible thing and buying a couple of standard catalog sets each year that could be circulated to the various branches for use, they're now buying a single copy of the standard catalog instead of a dozen or more. Making matters even worse, that single copy is kept on reserve status at Central Library downtown. Basically, it's inaccessible to the vast majority of collectors in the county. And, worse still, the "old" 2018 catalog sets that were in the various branches are now gone from most branches as well!!! Effective budgeting and customer service are not the strong suits for this (mis)management team. Very frustrating from a philatelist's and a taxpayer's perspective!

Tom

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18 Aug 2019
12:58:56am

re: Sudan catalog values please

Happy to anytime, Tom, as long as the 2017 info is good enough. I'm hoping to *maybe* be able to get a new set next year. Maybe.

I moved several years ago, and before that, there was a charming little municipal library within walking distance that updated their Scotts every year. It was a pleasure to stroll over there.

Then I moved to a more distant suburb, and the municipal library here that would also be within walking distance (but not really a pleasant stroll -- more of a slog along a busy street) hasn't updated their set in perhaps 10 years or so. And I do understand why. If the catalogs aren't seeing a lot of use, that's big money that could go to so many other subjects, especially to help students with their schoolwork.

Fortunately, there are a couple of libraries in neighboring towns who do keep up-to-date sets, but it's about 20 minutes by car in either direction and neither is part of my normal "route" for errands and the like. So I rely on my current set until I build up a long enough list of burning questions to justify the time and the gas for the trip.

Anyway, anytime I can help, I'm happy to!

-- Dave


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Al
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18 Aug 2019
06:26:18am

re: Sudan catalog values please

Do you think values change that much to warrant a new set?

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keesindy

18 Aug 2019
10:49:46pm

re: Sudan catalog values please

Angore, if you're asking me and referring to our local library system, I don't think a new set is absolutely necessary every year, but here is what I will recommend to our library management team.

I'll suggest they buy 2 or 3 sets each year instead of the old practice of buying up to 24 catalog sets each year. The old practice was insane and guess what! They discovered 2-3 years ago they had severe budget problems. Go figure. This year, the library management team bought a single copy for the library system and is keeping it on reserve at Central Branch downtown. They refuse to let it circulate to the branches for use within the branches.

I'll recommend they purchase three copies. However, if I can convince them to give up that archaic practice of keeping a copy on reserve downtown, then I'll recommend the purchase of two circulating copies each year.

We have four branches within 3-4 miles of our home. Prior to this year, each has had a current set of Scott standard catalogues every year for at least the past 12-15 years, and probably for many year before I began visiting the branches to access the catalogues.

The library has a good database system now and a circulation system that allows quick transfers of volumes between the branches.

Users don't always need the current catalogue set. My suggestion will be that they keep the older catalogue sets for 1 to 2 years and have them available along with the current set(s). Users could go online or visit any branch and request that a catalogue volume be sent to a particular branch. Since I would be recommending no more than two circulating catalogue sets for the library system, I will also recommend the library not allow the current catalogue volumes to be checked out by patrons. Keep them in the branches so they can be shuttled quickly to another branch when called for. Allow only the older sets to be checked out. If they were to purchase two new catalogue sets each year and retain each set for three years, we would have six sets available in the system each year.

We've clearly had a case here of the library management team making decisions without understanding how the catalogue sets are used. I hope to enlighten them!

Angore, I suspect the Scott paper catalogues will disappear before too long. If Scott goes to a cloud-based subscription of some sort, I don't know how that would work for either individuals or municipal library systems. It will get interesting!

Tom

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