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Europe/Germany : Bavarian Mystery.

 

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Brechinite

09 Oct 2019
11:58:01am

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Can anybody shed some light on these please:-



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09 Oct 2019
12:41:22pm
re: Bavarian Mystery.

At t he bottom of the second block it says "according to the draft of J. Ries 1865". I found a Johann Adam Ries in Wikipedia (German). If this is the right person, he was an Artist who also made templates for coins and medals. He passed away in 1889 in Munich so the time would be right. If these are original drafts they could be one of those better finds. Can´t help much more than that.

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Brechinite

09 Oct 2019
02:18:57pm

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Thanks Opa.

I found them in a box I bought on Monday night. The black one above is the only one that has no writing on the front. On the back of the embossed portrait are the letters ND and at the bottom of the sheet is the word Gehringer. (Google Translate will not translate the word into English so it may be a surname).
I only displayed two of the sheets. I have another four, in lilac, olive, blue and green. They are in superb condition and will make a fine addition to my Bavaria collection when or if I can discover the story about them.

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09 Oct 2019
02:33:19pm

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Ian, might be worthwhile to email this website owner. His email is at bottom of page.
http://catalogue.klaseboer.com/vol1/html/gstatba4.htm
Edit to add this looks similar to the pink one. Item 1342,
https://www.rasdalestamps.com/auction_browse.asp?auction=438&majgroup=SINGLES+or+SETS&mingroup=Bavaria&startlot=1338

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09 Oct 2019
02:47:45pm

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Gehringer is a printer in Kaiserslautern specialising in facsimile reprints of classic German states stamps. There are many similar sheetlets. Most are from the 1970s.

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09 Oct 2019
02:49:55pm

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

ND is the common German abbreviation for Neudruck - reprint.

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Brechinite

10 Oct 2019
06:42:57am

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Mystery solved. Reprints by a German printer.

It was the first time I'd ever seen these in all my years of attending fairs, digging through auction lots etc.


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10 Oct 2019
06:59:30am

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Looking further into this, the one above is a socalled Schwarzdruck, black print. These are made from the original plates, only with black ink and were used for testing or as a press release in the time that all newspapers had a philately corner Happy
Later on it changed to promotional giveaways at philatelic shows.

The interesting bit of this particular one is that it is an unreleased design.

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Brechinite

09 Oct 2019
11:58:01am

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Can anybody shed some light on these please:-



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Opa

09 Oct 2019
12:41:22pm

re: Bavarian Mystery.

At t he bottom of the second block it says "according to the draft of J. Ries 1865". I found a Johann Adam Ries in Wikipedia (German). If this is the right person, he was an Artist who also made templates for coins and medals. He passed away in 1889 in Munich so the time would be right. If these are original drafts they could be one of those better finds. Can´t help much more than that.

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Brechinite

09 Oct 2019
02:18:57pm

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Thanks Opa.

I found them in a box I bought on Monday night. The black one above is the only one that has no writing on the front. On the back of the embossed portrait are the letters ND and at the bottom of the sheet is the word Gehringer. (Google Translate will not translate the word into English so it may be a surname).
I only displayed two of the sheets. I have another four, in lilac, olive, blue and green. They are in superb condition and will make a fine addition to my Bavaria collection when or if I can discover the story about them.

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sheepshanks

09 Oct 2019
02:33:19pm

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Ian, might be worthwhile to email this website owner. His email is at bottom of page.
http://catalogue.klaseboer.com/vol1/html/gstatba4.htm
Edit to add this looks similar to the pink one. Item 1342,
https://www.rasdalestamps.com/auction_browse.asp?auction=438&majgroup=SINGLES+or+SETS&mingroup=Bavaria&startlot=1338

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Jansimon

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09 Oct 2019
02:47:45pm

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Gehringer is a printer in Kaiserslautern specialising in facsimile reprints of classic German states stamps. There are many similar sheetlets. Most are from the 1970s.

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Jansimon

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09 Oct 2019
02:49:55pm

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

ND is the common German abbreviation for Neudruck - reprint.

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Brechinite

10 Oct 2019
06:42:57am

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Mystery solved. Reprints by a German printer.

It was the first time I'd ever seen these in all my years of attending fairs, digging through auction lots etc.


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Jansimon

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10 Oct 2019
06:59:30am

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re: Bavarian Mystery.

Looking further into this, the one above is a socalled Schwarzdruck, black print. These are made from the original plates, only with black ink and were used for testing or as a press release in the time that all newspapers had a philately corner Happy
Later on it changed to promotional giveaways at philatelic shows.

The interesting bit of this particular one is that it is an unreleased design.

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www.etsy.com/nl/shop ...
        

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