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General Philatelic/Identify This? : FIOR?

 

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Well, at least I got to have a haircut in the Penny Lane barber shop.

24 Oct 2019
10:06:05am
If the denomination is Cyrillic, it seems to transpose to FIOR. . . which didn't help me at all. The top line would be PRIA GORA. Peter the Great became Tsar of Russia in 1696, but that doesn't seem to match the scenic picture or any 1896 Russian stamps.

Familiar to anyone?

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DaveSheridan
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24 Oct 2019
10:38:00am
re: FIOR?

It's Montenegro

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24 Oct 2019
10:47:01am
re: FIOR?

It is Scott# 56 with a 2017 catalog value of $1.40. Scott says that Perf. 11-1/2 counterfeits are plentiful.

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24 Oct 2019
10:50:47am
re: FIOR?

I believe this one is genuine.

The Fournier forgeries don't have the tiny cross at the top of the crown on the coat of arms at the bottom left.

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24 Oct 2019
11:10:31am
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Thanks, guys!

No disrespect to Montenegrans, but this stamp design hardly seems worth forging.

Joe

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michael78651

24 Oct 2019
02:19:25pm
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The letters at the top of the stamp is the country name. Montenegro used different iterations of the form of the name.

The Illustrated Identifier at the back of each Scott Standard Catalogue shows this text to help identify the stamp as coming from Montenegro. (I am just trying to provide helpful tips on to better use the catalogs.)

Regarding stamps "unworthy to be counterfeited", back in the first half of the 20th Century, many stamps were counterfeited and sold to dealers for what is commonly known as the "packet trade". Supplies of these stamps were not available to dealers to fulfill the needs of stamp collectors. So enterprising people, alot of them in Italy, came to the rescue. Now we have to deal with their legacy. That is why when one finds an "old" stamp album from grandpa, and one thinks they have found a gold mine, that examination of many of the stamps contained in such albums are fakes or reprints.


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12,8 cm Kanone 43 L/55 in blueprints only

25 Oct 2019
12:13:22am
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quite honestly I would be more inclined from an artistic point of view to forge this stamp as oppposed to say many of those newfie spiro's and sperati's

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Well, at least I got to have a haircut in the Penny Lane barber shop.
24 Oct 2019
10:06:05am

If the denomination is Cyrillic, it seems to transpose to FIOR. . . which didn't help me at all. The top line would be PRIA GORA. Peter the Great became Tsar of Russia in 1696, but that doesn't seem to match the scenic picture or any 1896 Russian stamps.

Familiar to anyone?

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24 Oct 2019
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It's Montenegro

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Dakota

24 Oct 2019
10:47:01am

re: FIOR?

It is Scott# 56 with a 2017 catalog value of $1.40. Scott says that Perf. 11-1/2 counterfeits are plentiful.

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nigelc

24 Oct 2019
10:50:47am

re: FIOR?

I believe this one is genuine.

The Fournier forgeries don't have the tiny cross at the top of the crown on the coat of arms at the bottom left.

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Well, at least I got to have a haircut in the Penny Lane barber shop.
24 Oct 2019
11:10:31am

re: FIOR?

Thanks, guys!

No disrespect to Montenegrans, but this stamp design hardly seems worth forging.

Joe

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michael78651

24 Oct 2019
02:19:25pm

re: FIOR?

The letters at the top of the stamp is the country name. Montenegro used different iterations of the form of the name.

The Illustrated Identifier at the back of each Scott Standard Catalogue shows this text to help identify the stamp as coming from Montenegro. (I am just trying to provide helpful tips on to better use the catalogs.)

Regarding stamps "unworthy to be counterfeited", back in the first half of the 20th Century, many stamps were counterfeited and sold to dealers for what is commonly known as the "packet trade". Supplies of these stamps were not available to dealers to fulfill the needs of stamp collectors. So enterprising people, alot of them in Italy, came to the rescue. Now we have to deal with their legacy. That is why when one finds an "old" stamp album from grandpa, and one thinks they have found a gold mine, that examination of many of the stamps contained in such albums are fakes or reprints.


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nlroberts1961

12,8 cm Kanone 43 L/55 in blueprints only

25 Oct 2019
12:13:22am

re: FIOR?

quite honestly I would be more inclined from an artistic point of view to forge this stamp as oppposed to say many of those newfie spiro's and sperati's

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