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Sales, Swaps, Auction & Approvals/Auction Disc. : Misidentified/forgerie stamp

 

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gerom

29 Mar 2020
02:32:17am
How to do it when I see a wrong stamp identified or forgerie in the auction list?
I think it is normal to announce the site administrator?

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Harvey

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29 Mar 2020
08:54:49am
re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

Not sure about online, my temptation would be to let someone know. We had an antique auction locally that had some early Canadian stuff that was "not right" in my opinion. I told the auctioneer he should have someone take a look - this was a preview for the next day's auction. His reply is that that was not his problem and the bidders would decide the value. I can see his side but he could have got more for the stamps. I already had most of the material and there are few serious collectors in the area, so maybe it really wasn't worth the extra expense. It just bothers me a bit to see something sold that is not identified properly since that seems to stay with the item. Stay safe everyone!

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29 Mar 2020
09:04:22am
re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

I would think a note to the person selling would be the best bet. Easy to send them a message. A reputable person will take a closer look, modify the listing and/or pull from sale while they investigate, unless they are supremely confident in the item. Then they should give you the courtesy of a cordial reply. People do make mistakes on occasion. I know I would like to know if I accidentally did something like that, as I would want to learn! But if their response is other than these, or if they get defensive or nasty, escalation/reporting of the listing would be in order for the benefit of all users.
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29 Mar 2020
10:08:52am
re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

Perhaps we need to identify who the players are and in what field they are playing. For example, if the field being played in is SOR, then sure all courtesy and good fellowship ought to be the rule, and always know that our auctioneer and president try to have everyone's back. Notifying them is always a good procedure.

That said, if the venue(field) is a commercial one, like eBay or others, then I believe the rules change. If you are a buyer, then it is on you not to be taken advantage of- so either inform the seller or not-your choice. If you are a seller, it is on you to be accurate and to honor your advertisement. If you as a seller have underpriced the item-consider it a learning curve. If you as a seller have misidentified an item, it is on you to correct and make your buyer comfortable with whatever the end result is. If you can't do that, your days as a seller are going to be numbered.

As a buyer, you are looking for at least a fair purchase, and hopefully a really good deal.As a seller, you are looking for sales and repeat customers. Just my opinion of course, but to me if I can see something being offered that the seller has no clue about, but based upon my knowledge it is something desired, then I feel no obligation to inform/correct/protect the seller from himself.

That may be too hard-nosed for others, but I personally can live with that approach.
Best,
Dan C.

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gerom

29 Mar 2020
12:54:16pm
re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

My question was about SOR auctions.
I am a new member, a beginner in stamp collecting and I do not intend to buy the stamp which I think is misidentified and especially quoted.
I do not think I have the necessary authority and knowledge to address the seller and that is why I was curious to find out who I should contact to perform a competent analysis.
It is possible to make a mistake when evaluating the stamp, I do not know English enough and I can offend without wanting the seller and therefore I prefer to address a neutral person.
I hope I made myself clear.
George

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29 Mar 2020
01:05:24pm
re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

Feel free to contact any auctioneer with any questions related to the sales platforms. Sending private message is the best method.

The primary auctioneers are Antonio (smauggie), and myself.

We do permit the sale of such items, but the seller has to indicate that the item is not genuine (or thought to not be genuine) in the item description.

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gerom

29 Mar 2020
02:32:17am

How to do it when I see a wrong stamp identified or forgerie in the auction list?
I think it is normal to announce the site administrator?

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Harvey

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29 Mar 2020
08:54:49am

re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

Not sure about online, my temptation would be to let someone know. We had an antique auction locally that had some early Canadian stuff that was "not right" in my opinion. I told the auctioneer he should have someone take a look - this was a preview for the next day's auction. His reply is that that was not his problem and the bidders would decide the value. I can see his side but he could have got more for the stamps. I already had most of the material and there are few serious collectors in the area, so maybe it really wasn't worth the extra expense. It just bothers me a bit to see something sold that is not identified properly since that seems to stay with the item. Stay safe everyone!

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29 Mar 2020
09:04:22am

re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

I would think a note to the person selling would be the best bet. Easy to send them a message. A reputable person will take a closer look, modify the listing and/or pull from sale while they investigate, unless they are supremely confident in the item. Then they should give you the courtesy of a cordial reply. People do make mistakes on occasion. I know I would like to know if I accidentally did something like that, as I would want to learn! But if their response is other than these, or if they get defensive or nasty, escalation/reporting of the listing would be in order for the benefit of all users.
Doug

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29 Mar 2020
10:08:52am

re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

Perhaps we need to identify who the players are and in what field they are playing. For example, if the field being played in is SOR, then sure all courtesy and good fellowship ought to be the rule, and always know that our auctioneer and president try to have everyone's back. Notifying them is always a good procedure.

That said, if the venue(field) is a commercial one, like eBay or others, then I believe the rules change. If you are a buyer, then it is on you not to be taken advantage of- so either inform the seller or not-your choice. If you are a seller, it is on you to be accurate and to honor your advertisement. If you as a seller have underpriced the item-consider it a learning curve. If you as a seller have misidentified an item, it is on you to correct and make your buyer comfortable with whatever the end result is. If you can't do that, your days as a seller are going to be numbered.

As a buyer, you are looking for at least a fair purchase, and hopefully a really good deal.As a seller, you are looking for sales and repeat customers. Just my opinion of course, but to me if I can see something being offered that the seller has no clue about, but based upon my knowledge it is something desired, then I feel no obligation to inform/correct/protect the seller from himself.

That may be too hard-nosed for others, but I personally can live with that approach.
Best,
Dan C.

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gerom

29 Mar 2020
12:54:16pm

re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

My question was about SOR auctions.
I am a new member, a beginner in stamp collecting and I do not intend to buy the stamp which I think is misidentified and especially quoted.
I do not think I have the necessary authority and knowledge to address the seller and that is why I was curious to find out who I should contact to perform a competent analysis.
It is possible to make a mistake when evaluating the stamp, I do not know English enough and I can offend without wanting the seller and therefore I prefer to address a neutral person.
I hope I made myself clear.
George

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29 Mar 2020
01:05:24pm

re: Misidentified/forgerie stamp

Feel free to contact any auctioneer with any questions related to the sales platforms. Sending private message is the best method.

The primary auctioneers are Antonio (smauggie), and myself.

We do permit the sale of such items, but the seller has to indicate that the item is not genuine (or thought to not be genuine) in the item description.

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