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I suspect the "E" denomination is for letters to Europe. Is it common for receiving European countries to add their nice cancels to the boring British "wavy lines" cancel? Or was this just a nice German Postie paying it forward to some lucky collector?
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Yes Dave it's a non-denominational stamp for postage to Europe up to 20grams.
It's from the 2001 Christmas issue SG 2240,
They don't issue these any more as far as I'm aware. I belive the last one was in 2004. They are still valid for postage and now have a face value of £1.42GBP.
I must admit I've never seen this sort of cancel before. Maybe someone at Deutche Post had a wicked sense of humour and thought it would be a good idea to drive philatelists mad with curiosity.
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Such instances are not so uncommon as one might think. Consider the following scenario: An international letter bearing a stamp cancelled in the country of origin arrives in the country of destination but is mis-delivered (say to 45 Smith Street instead of 45 Stewart Street) because of a human sorting error. The property holder at 45 Smith Street notices the error, and simply puts the letter back in the mail for re-delivery. The letter happens to go through the cancelling and sorting plant in the country of destination and the result is a double-cancelled stamp with the second postmark bearing an imprint of the country of destination on the stamp from the country of origin.
Here is another example, from 1978, of a commemorative stamp (international rate at the time, I believe, 11p) from Great Britain with a Vancouver, Canada postmark.
J. T. Hurd.
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To confirm J. T.'s statement, yes, the German cancel looks like the date part of a machine postmark of the Stuttgart mail processing centre.
With regards to the UK stamp with the Canadian postmark, it used to be the custom that uncancelled stamps on mail should be cancelled whenever they were detected, even abroad. For instance, I've got US stamps with UK postmarks and Bulgarian stamps with German postmarks. German post offices even had special date cancels "Nachträglich entwertet" for that purpose, now they use undated rubber stamps.
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Lemaven:
For those who might be interested in the Briefzentrum postmarks, the link below has a list and map of them with the place names corresponding to their numbers, along with their sizes in relation to volume of mail processed.
FF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briefzentrum_(Deutsche_Post)
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I had thrown this in my Germany pile when I quickly saw the postmark and design. But later noticed that it had The Queen's Head on it so put it into GB.
I suspect the "E" denomination is for letters to Europe. Is it common for receiving European countries to add their nice cancels to the boring British "wavy lines" cancel? Or was this just a nice German Postie paying it forward to some lucky collector?
Thanks, Dave.
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re: Great Britain Stamp With SON Stuttgart Germany CDS ... HUH???
Yes Dave it's a non-denominational stamp for postage to Europe up to 20grams.
It's from the 2001 Christmas issue SG 2240,
They don't issue these any more as far as I'm aware. I belive the last one was in 2004. They are still valid for postage and now have a face value of £1.42GBP.
I must admit I've never seen this sort of cancel before. Maybe someone at Deutche Post had a wicked sense of humour and thought it would be a good idea to drive philatelists mad with curiosity.
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re: Great Britain Stamp With SON Stuttgart Germany CDS ... HUH???
Such instances are not so uncommon as one might think. Consider the following scenario: An international letter bearing a stamp cancelled in the country of origin arrives in the country of destination but is mis-delivered (say to 45 Smith Street instead of 45 Stewart Street) because of a human sorting error. The property holder at 45 Smith Street notices the error, and simply puts the letter back in the mail for re-delivery. The letter happens to go through the cancelling and sorting plant in the country of destination and the result is a double-cancelled stamp with the second postmark bearing an imprint of the country of destination on the stamp from the country of origin.
Here is another example, from 1978, of a commemorative stamp (international rate at the time, I believe, 11p) from Great Britain with a Vancouver, Canada postmark.
J. T. Hurd.
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re: Great Britain Stamp With SON Stuttgart Germany CDS ... HUH???
To confirm J. T.'s statement, yes, the German cancel looks like the date part of a machine postmark of the Stuttgart mail processing centre.
With regards to the UK stamp with the Canadian postmark, it used to be the custom that uncancelled stamps on mail should be cancelled whenever they were detected, even abroad. For instance, I've got US stamps with UK postmarks and Bulgarian stamps with German postmarks. German post offices even had special date cancels "Nachträglich entwertet" for that purpose, now they use undated rubber stamps.
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re: Great Britain Stamp With SON Stuttgart Germany CDS ... HUH???
Lemaven:
For those who might be interested in the Briefzentrum postmarks, the link below has a list and map of them with the place names corresponding to their numbers, along with their sizes in relation to volume of mail processed.
FF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briefzentrum_(Deutsche_Post)
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