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United States/Covers & Postmarks : Postal Card - A couple of points...

 

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JohnnyRockets
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28 Apr 2020
06:09:43pm
Hi all,

I like these postal cards.


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I found this one to be interesting to me for several reasons.

First off, it was perforated and is comprised of two cards as you can see.

Second, it is printed in English and French, not exactly sure why?

Third, it has the term "World VacationLand" on it, which is almost strange to me, as I would never think of Washington D.C. as a vacation spot that I would ever go to and certainly not a "World" VactionLand.

So, those are some points that I found kind of notable.


Thanks!



JR

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ikeyPikey
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28 Apr 2020
10:07:30pm
re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

Message-and-reply cards are a standard bit of postal stationery, and an interesting bit of postal history.

Often, they bore a pre-printed commercial message; for example, the 'message' card might tell you that it was time to read your (rural) electric meter, and the 'reply' card would allow you to report your meter reading.

I have several examples, and am always on the lookout for more.

You can find the intact message-and-reply pair unmailed, or the intact pair with the message card used and the still-attached reply card unused, or just the used message card (as retained by the recipient for whatever reason), or just the used reply card (as retained by that recipient), or ...

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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28 Apr 2020
11:44:02pm
re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

The message is in French as well as English because French is the official language of the Universal Postal Union. That's also why auxiliary markings on international mail are also in French (Postage Due = Taxe Percue).

The "World Vacationland" of this issue does not refer to Washington DC, but to the entire United States. See that the entire USA is highlighted on the map in white.

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jmh67

29 Apr 2020
03:32:25am
re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

The item shown above is an international postal card with reply, hence the higher rate and the bilingual inscription. AFAIK these cards aren't used any more for their original purpose, at some time in the early 1970s (?) the practice was discontinued, possibly because of the difficult accounting between countries and varying exchange rates. But while it worked (sadly, that was before my time as a collector), it was - among other uses - a great way to obtain foreign postmarks, you just sent such a card to the appropriate post office in Yellowknife, Alice Springs, Vladivostok, Funchal ... with your request and addressed the return part to yourself. Now you need envelopes and foreign stamps or IRCs.

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Pogopossum

29 Apr 2020
09:03:15am
re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

How was it acceptable to use a card with US postage to reply from a foreign country? If a reply card were sent to France, wouldn't the return card need French postage?

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jmh67

29 Apr 2020
09:11:07am
re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

Because at that time, it was just as legal to send a French international reply card from the USA back to France. UPU agreements and all that. After all, the reply was prepaid, and the postal administrations worked it out between each other. Don't ask me how, but somehow they did. Only extras such as air mail or express services had to be paid using stamps of the country where the reply was sent from.

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29 Apr 2020
11:09:36am
re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

Reply cards used from international locations are reasonably desirable items. Usually get pretty strong bids from postal historians:

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Used from Malmo Sweden back to Germany
Because of the 1923 inflation, original sender had to uprate the card with additional postage before sending the original message card with this attached.

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Used from Destruction Bay, Yukon Canada back to Great Britain

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28 Apr 2020
06:09:43pm

Hi all,

I like these postal cards.


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I found this one to be interesting to me for several reasons.

First off, it was perforated and is comprised of two cards as you can see.

Second, it is printed in English and French, not exactly sure why?

Third, it has the term "World VacationLand" on it, which is almost strange to me, as I would never think of Washington D.C. as a vacation spot that I would ever go to and certainly not a "World" VactionLand.

So, those are some points that I found kind of notable.


Thanks!



JR

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ikeyPikey

28 Apr 2020
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re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

Message-and-reply cards are a standard bit of postal stationery, and an interesting bit of postal history.

Often, they bore a pre-printed commercial message; for example, the 'message' card might tell you that it was time to read your (rural) electric meter, and the 'reply' card would allow you to report your meter reading.

I have several examples, and am always on the lookout for more.

You can find the intact message-and-reply pair unmailed, or the intact pair with the message card used and the still-attached reply card unused, or just the used message card (as retained by the recipient for whatever reason), or just the used reply card (as retained by that recipient), or ...

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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28 Apr 2020
11:44:02pm

re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

The message is in French as well as English because French is the official language of the Universal Postal Union. That's also why auxiliary markings on international mail are also in French (Postage Due = Taxe Percue).

The "World Vacationland" of this issue does not refer to Washington DC, but to the entire United States. See that the entire USA is highlighted on the map in white.

Roy

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jmh67

29 Apr 2020
03:32:25am

re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

The item shown above is an international postal card with reply, hence the higher rate and the bilingual inscription. AFAIK these cards aren't used any more for their original purpose, at some time in the early 1970s (?) the practice was discontinued, possibly because of the difficult accounting between countries and varying exchange rates. But while it worked (sadly, that was before my time as a collector), it was - among other uses - a great way to obtain foreign postmarks, you just sent such a card to the appropriate post office in Yellowknife, Alice Springs, Vladivostok, Funchal ... with your request and addressed the return part to yourself. Now you need envelopes and foreign stamps or IRCs.

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Pogopossum

29 Apr 2020
09:03:15am

re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

How was it acceptable to use a card with US postage to reply from a foreign country? If a reply card were sent to France, wouldn't the return card need French postage?

Geoff

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jmh67

29 Apr 2020
09:11:07am

re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

Because at that time, it was just as legal to send a French international reply card from the USA back to France. UPU agreements and all that. After all, the reply was prepaid, and the postal administrations worked it out between each other. Don't ask me how, but somehow they did. Only extras such as air mail or express services had to be paid using stamps of the country where the reply was sent from.

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29 Apr 2020
11:09:36am

re: Postal Card - A couple of points...

Reply cards used from international locations are reasonably desirable items. Usually get pretty strong bids from postal historians:

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Used from Malmo Sweden back to Germany
Because of the 1923 inflation, original sender had to uprate the card with additional postage before sending the original message card with this attached.

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Used from Destruction Bay, Yukon Canada back to Great Britain

Roy

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