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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

 

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CaliforniaBob

23 Jun 2020
08:33:15pm
I cannot find this in Scotts Cat. Can anyone identify it,know why it's not listed, or have some hint as to value? -- Printed on thick paper. Thanks to you experts for the hlp!Image Not Found

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HockeyNut
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24 Jun 2020
08:07:33am
re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

Certain Government envelopes do not require a postage stamp.
It is free for the government to use, and to mail a letter without a stamp, for official business.
They put a warning on the envelope to warn people that using a "free" envelope to mail your personal letters is a against the law and is punishable with a fine.
The warning is not meant for the recipient of the letter, you, and has no significance unless you use one of those "stamp free" envelopes for personal use.


Value :

http://bwdavis.us/meter-preprinted-postage.html

https://picclick.com/Dealers-Stock-Penalty-for-Private-Use-300-Label-184208578112.html

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

25 Jun 2020
03:53:50pm
re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

Does anyone recognise the similarity to the Coast Guard
Emblem that was used when the USCG was a part of the
Treasury Department ?

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I noticed right away how much it resembles a Tattoo on
my left arm.
The olive branch represents "Peace," the arrows, War,
the Eagle is from the presidential shield, and the
small shield in the center, the Treasury Department.
The thirteen stars just happen to coincide with the
number of states when the USCG was founded in 1790
by Alexander Hamilton, the first Secretary of the
Treasury.
That, by the way, was eight years before there was
either a US Army or A US Navy. Thus the Coast Guard
is the oldest and senior United States military service.

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CaliforniaBob

26 Jun 2020
09:39:14pm
re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

cdj1122,

Thank you for your response. This eagle appears in various forms, I believe, on all kinds of federal logos. Do you know if the thirteen stars or any other feature on this seal are unique to the coast guard?

Thanks,

BOB

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

26 Jun 2020
11:27:48pm
re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

" .... Do you know if the thirteen stars or
any other feature on this seal are unique
to the "....Coast Guard?...."


Th ribbon in the Eagle's mouth reads
the US National meaning "From Many, One"
or Out of many separate states, one nation.
That is hardly unique, however below the eagle is,
"Semper Paratus" which reads "Always Ready", or
as old Coasties say "Semper Forguttus," a crusty
way of noting that the USCG is often the forgotten
service, last in line, until it is needed for an emergency.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
tomiseksj
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27 Jun 2020
06:06:39pm
re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

Google's image search function is your friend.

The below image was taken from a Stamp Auction Network listing that closed in 2002. The item description read:

"Interior Dept., 1912, Official Business envelope, with 1912 New York machine cancel Penalty for Private Use indicia, Department of the Interior corner ad, addressed to Hackensack NJ; tear through corner ad, sunned, F.-V.F."



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A note in the Official Envelopes & Wrappers section of the Scott Specialized explains why this indicia is not listed:

"...Department envelopes became obsolete July 5, 1884. After that, government offices began to use franked envelopes of varied design. These indicate no denomination and lie beyond the scope of this Catalogue."



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CaliforniaBob

23 Jun 2020
08:33:15pm

I cannot find this in Scotts Cat. Can anyone identify it,know why it's not listed, or have some hint as to value? -- Printed on thick paper. Thanks to you experts for the hlp!Image Not Found

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HockeyNut

24 Jun 2020
08:07:33am

re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

Certain Government envelopes do not require a postage stamp.
It is free for the government to use, and to mail a letter without a stamp, for official business.
They put a warning on the envelope to warn people that using a "free" envelope to mail your personal letters is a against the law and is punishable with a fine.
The warning is not meant for the recipient of the letter, you, and has no significance unless you use one of those "stamp free" envelopes for personal use.


Value :

http://bwdavis.us/meter-preprinted-postage.html

https://picclick.com/Dealers-Stock-Penalty-for-Private-Use-300-Label-184208578112.html

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
25 Jun 2020
03:53:50pm

re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

Does anyone recognise the similarity to the Coast Guard
Emblem that was used when the USCG was a part of the
Treasury Department ?

Image Not Found

I noticed right away how much it resembles a Tattoo on
my left arm.
The olive branch represents "Peace," the arrows, War,
the Eagle is from the presidential shield, and the
small shield in the center, the Treasury Department.
The thirteen stars just happen to coincide with the
number of states when the USCG was founded in 1790
by Alexander Hamilton, the first Secretary of the
Treasury.
That, by the way, was eight years before there was
either a US Army or A US Navy. Thus the Coast Guard
is the oldest and senior United States military service.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
CaliforniaBob

26 Jun 2020
09:39:14pm

re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

cdj1122,

Thank you for your response. This eagle appears in various forms, I believe, on all kinds of federal logos. Do you know if the thirteen stars or any other feature on this seal are unique to the coast guard?

Thanks,

BOB

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
26 Jun 2020
11:27:48pm

re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

" .... Do you know if the thirteen stars or
any other feature on this seal are unique
to the "....Coast Guard?...."


Th ribbon in the Eagle's mouth reads
the US National meaning "From Many, One"
or Out of many separate states, one nation.
That is hardly unique, however below the eagle is,
"Semper Paratus" which reads "Always Ready", or
as old Coasties say "Semper Forguttus," a crusty
way of noting that the USCG is often the forgotten
service, last in line, until it is needed for an emergency.

Like
Login to Like
this post

".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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tomiseksj

27 Jun 2020
06:06:39pm

re: Unlisted U.S. Official Postal Stationary

Google's image search function is your friend.

The below image was taken from a Stamp Auction Network listing that closed in 2002. The item description read:

"Interior Dept., 1912, Official Business envelope, with 1912 New York machine cancel Penalty for Private Use indicia, Department of the Interior corner ad, addressed to Hackensack NJ; tear through corner ad, sunned, F.-V.F."



Image Not Found

A note in the Official Envelopes & Wrappers section of the Scott Specialized explains why this indicia is not listed:

"...Department envelopes became obsolete July 5, 1884. After that, government offices began to use franked envelopes of varied design. These indicate no denomination and lie beyond the scope of this Catalogue."



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