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Europe/Germany : A couple of very strange Items

 

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HockeyNut
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10 Oct 2020
10:35:32am
I posted the AZAD HIND Stamps earlier on this forum :

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Those stamps were only available unused.........

But lately I discovered these items in India


In 1964, to commemorate 67 years since Chandra Bose's birth, the Indian post office allowed the 1943 Waffen-SS Azad Hind stamps to be used.
The post office release of these was very limited.
How odd that it took 21 years to use these stamps, since they were never used in 1943 due to the war!

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Prior to the World War II period, Indians in Singapore and Malaya retained strong political, sentimental and economic ties with their home country.
Anti-colonial thoughts and actions, inspired by the “call for freedom” in India, resonated in the region too.
Radio broadcasts, newspaper reports and visits by nationalist leaders strengthened the nationalistic mood among the migrant Indian community.
The Indian National Army and Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose brought to the fore this spirit of nationalism.
This collection provides rare documentary evidence of the involvement of the region's Indian community in the Indian National Army and the Indian Independence League, the army's fund raising arm.
This is a First Day Cover issued in commemoration of the 25th Anniversary of the Azad Hind

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Some other examples from India Azad Hind :

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10 Oct 2020
12:25:53pm
re: A couple of very strange Items

Now my question :

Should we now consider these stamps, which were issued by the national printing office in Berlin in 1943 and pasted on letters in the period from 1964 to 1968, as canceled?

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nigelc
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15 Oct 2020
06:24:39pm
re: A couple of very strange Items

Hello HockeyNut,

I would consider these examples to be cancelled but not postally used.

Did the Indian Post Office allow these stamps to be used to pay for postage on regular postal items in 1964 or could they only be cancelled like this on souvenirs or applied as labels in addition to regular stamps?

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16 Oct 2020
05:56:01am

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re: A couple of very strange Items

My first thought is: yes they are cancelled, but all these covers are unadressed, so they are not postally used, so they are CTO at best.
I would call these philatelic creations that do not really change much to the fact that the Azad Hind stamps were commissioned but unissued.

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16 Oct 2020
12:08:53pm
re: A couple of very strange Items

i agree with Jan-Simon and Nigel

these are essentially philatelic creations, but show case political sentiment in a country with enormous turmoil internally and regionally

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16 Oct 2020
12:10:14pm
re: A couple of very strange Items

i also think the idea of discussing them as cancelled or not is immaterial IF they remain on the cover; off the cover, they become philatelic orphans whose existence would be tough to explain

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16 Oct 2020
01:36:49pm
re: A couple of very strange Items

Thanks guys for all the answers.

I think of them as "mache" as the Germans say so beautifully.
Or "maatwerk" like they say in the Netherlands.
Don't know the correct term in English.

You can never issue an FDC from 23-1-1964 with stamps from 1943, like the 2nd, 4th and the 6th picture can you?

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HockeyNut

10 Oct 2020
10:35:32am

I posted the AZAD HIND Stamps earlier on this forum :

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Image Not Found

Those stamps were only available unused.........

But lately I discovered these items in India


In 1964, to commemorate 67 years since Chandra Bose's birth, the Indian post office allowed the 1943 Waffen-SS Azad Hind stamps to be used.
The post office release of these was very limited.
How odd that it took 21 years to use these stamps, since they were never used in 1943 due to the war!

Image Not Found

Prior to the World War II period, Indians in Singapore and Malaya retained strong political, sentimental and economic ties with their home country.
Anti-colonial thoughts and actions, inspired by the “call for freedom” in India, resonated in the region too.
Radio broadcasts, newspaper reports and visits by nationalist leaders strengthened the nationalistic mood among the migrant Indian community.
The Indian National Army and Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose brought to the fore this spirit of nationalism.
This collection provides rare documentary evidence of the involvement of the region's Indian community in the Indian National Army and the Indian Independence League, the army's fund raising arm.
This is a First Day Cover issued in commemoration of the 25th Anniversary of the Azad Hind

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Some other examples from India Azad Hind :

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HockeyNut

10 Oct 2020
12:25:53pm

re: A couple of very strange Items

Now my question :

Should we now consider these stamps, which were issued by the national printing office in Berlin in 1943 and pasted on letters in the period from 1964 to 1968, as canceled?

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nigelc

15 Oct 2020
06:24:39pm

re: A couple of very strange Items

Hello HockeyNut,

I would consider these examples to be cancelled but not postally used.

Did the Indian Post Office allow these stamps to be used to pay for postage on regular postal items in 1964 or could they only be cancelled like this on souvenirs or applied as labels in addition to regular stamps?

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Jansimon

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16 Oct 2020
05:56:01am

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re: A couple of very strange Items

My first thought is: yes they are cancelled, but all these covers are unadressed, so they are not postally used, so they are CTO at best.
I would call these philatelic creations that do not really change much to the fact that the Azad Hind stamps were commissioned but unissued.

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amsd

Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
16 Oct 2020
12:08:53pm

re: A couple of very strange Items

i agree with Jan-Simon and Nigel

these are essentially philatelic creations, but show case political sentiment in a country with enormous turmoil internally and regionally

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"Save the USPS, buy stamps; save the hobby, use commemoratives"

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amsd

Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
16 Oct 2020
12:10:14pm

re: A couple of very strange Items

i also think the idea of discussing them as cancelled or not is immaterial IF they remain on the cover; off the cover, they become philatelic orphans whose existence would be tough to explain

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"Save the USPS, buy stamps; save the hobby, use commemoratives"

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HockeyNut

16 Oct 2020
01:36:49pm

re: A couple of very strange Items

Thanks guys for all the answers.

I think of them as "mache" as the Germans say so beautifully.
Or "maatwerk" like they say in the Netherlands.
Don't know the correct term in English.

You can never issue an FDC from 23-1-1964 with stamps from 1943, like the 2nd, 4th and the 6th picture can you?

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