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In the years 1920-1936, experiments with missiles were carried out in many areas.
The idea actually came when I read the message from youpiao at "Die Deutsche luftpost"
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Rocket builders
In the years 1920 to 1930 rocket builders used many sheds and open fields between Los Angeles and Düsseldorf. Robert Goddard, Hermann Oberth, Konstantin Tsiolkovski, Wernher von Braun, Gerhard Zucker and many others lit the sky with rockets that sometimes took off, but sometimes crashed immediately. Many of these pioneers dreamed of flights to the moon or Mars. Sometimes, however, they were content with more practical goals - for example, delivering mail by rocket.
The Czech Ludvik Ocenasek hoped that mail between Europe and the US could be delivered by rocket. In March 1930 he demonstrated several rockets propelled by gunpowder. One reached a height of about one and a half kilometers. Unfortunately, he ran out of funds during the Great Depression. He couldn't continue his work.
Another rocket researcher was a little more successful near him. The Austrian Friedrich Schmiedl dreamed of being able to deliver post to remote mountain villages - and later of post traffic between European countries. In 1931 his rocket transported 102 mail items from the Schöckl-Berg in Graz to Sankt Radegund. A few months later, another rocket was carrying 333 mail items. With this early success, Schmiedl hoped to build a rocket that would carry mail across the English Channel. But for him too, the global economic crisis put an end to his dreams. There was no longer any talk of rocket mail deliveries.
Mail rocket
The mail rocket was a rocket developed in the 1930s for the transport of mail. It had a primitive, single-stage drive and had a compartment for mail in the head of the rocket. Since the missile could only be used once and left a lot to be desired in terms of both target accuracy and cost efficiency, it was never used commercially from the start. It also failed because of the rapid development of air traffic, which was able to take on this task much more cheaply.
April 15, 1931: The first German postal rocket designed by Reinhold Tiling is tested at Dümmer near Osnabrück
First start
The first post rocket was successfully detonated on February 2, 1931 by the Graz-based researcher Friedrich Schmiedl on the Schöckl north of Graz. He already had ideas from 1914, at the age of 12, to shoot mail out of Przemy?l with a rocket. But they were not taken seriously. The remote-controlled rocket V 7 (V for experimental rocket) reached the village of St. Radegund about five kilometers away and landed with the aid of a parachute. It transported 102 letters. The first postal rocket to be regarded as regular in Austria was the R 1, which Schmiedl ignited on September 9, 1931 on the Hochtrötsch in the municipality of Semriach. Subsequently, he successfully carried mail in this way a few more times.
The failure of an idea
Schmiedl had in mind to use postal rockets to transport mail between hard-to-reach mountain villages and between large cities, but the idea did not meet with the responsible Austrian postal officials. Similar ideas also existed in Germany at the same time. For example, a rocket mail line Berlin-Cologne was thought of, and elsewhere, the designer Gerhard Zucker launched several mail rockets in Cuxhaven and in the Harz Mountains in 1933. But here, too, the idea could not prevail. When Zucker presented his ideas about this type of mail and postcard delivery to the National Socialist authorities in 1934, he was offered research funds to instead bomb his rockets, which Zucker refused and consequently brought him into disrepute among the new rulers. Sugar then emigrated to Great Britain and tried to interest the authorities in the use of postal missiles. Successful attempts in the county of Sussex brought media coverage ("First British rocket mail") and made Zucker think of a rocket mail connection between Dover and Calais. But a subsequent technically unsuccessful demonstration on July 31, 1934 in front of official representatives on the Outer Hebridean Islands prevented success. Back in Germany, Zucker was still trying to launch postal rockets in the 1970s. But after two people were killed in the accident at the rocket demonstration in Braunlage in 1964, the legislation was changed accordingly, so that from now on the launching of rockets with an altitude of over 100 m by private individuals was prohibited. In Austria, the idea of a rocket mail came to an end earlier. Friedrich Schmiedl dreamed, among other things, of a rocket mail line Ljubljana-Graz-Bern, but had to give up his plans due to new legal provisions of 1934. At that time, possession of explosives that were necessary for rocket detonations became a criminal offense.
Significance for philately
A postcard carried on the first German post rocket flight ("(K) FTL3" from Tiling, April 15, 1931)
The mail rocket was important for philatelists right from the start. Both Schmiedl and Zucker issued their own philatelic collector's items with special motifs related to the postal rocket. Gerhard Zucker, for example, had brought out envelopes in England that were intended to be transported by rocket, and on the occasion of the launch of Schmiedl's mail rocket, he issued a block of stamps in four different designs with a total circulation of 1,200. The postal rocket tests were partially financed with the proceeds from the sales.
However, this approach had considerable consequences for both researchers. Both the British and Austrian Post saw this as a business competition and took appropriate steps. The UK's Royal Mail viewed sugar as a "threat to postal revenues and the security of the country", which led to the researcher being sent back to Germany. The Austrian Post issued an ordinance that prohibited the issuance of private stamps, so that Schmiedl lost a significant source of income.
In honor of the Austrian pioneer of the postal rocket, model rockets of the Thor type were launched around the 90th birthday of Friedrich Schmiedl in Semriach from 14 to 16 May 1992. In 2002 the Philatelic Society of Graz organized several post rocket launches in Semriach on the occasion of Schmiedl's 100th birthday.
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Car ride through the watt in front of the island of Neuwerk.
where the launch took place
Rocket launch Thale, Harz 1933
1st night flight, Hasselfelde 1933
night flight, Thalendorf 1933
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Delivered with the rocket "Herta" 1934
LOOK AT THE NSDAP RUBBER STAMP IN THE LEFT CORNER !!!!!!!! 1934
LOOK AT THE NSDAP RUBBER STAMP IN THE LEFT CORNER, Thale 1934
LOOK AT THE NSDAP RUBBER STAMP IN THE LEFT CORNER, 1934
All signed by Gerhard Zucker himself.
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Herr Zucker himself at his rocket 1934 FRONT
BACK of that postcard
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The story is a bit broader than just Germany, but I want to limit myself to German history.
In the years 1920-1936, experiments with missiles were carried out in many areas.
The idea actually came when I read the message from youpiao at "Die Deutsche luftpost"
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Rocket builders
In the years 1920 to 1930 rocket builders used many sheds and open fields between Los Angeles and Düsseldorf. Robert Goddard, Hermann Oberth, Konstantin Tsiolkovski, Wernher von Braun, Gerhard Zucker and many others lit the sky with rockets that sometimes took off, but sometimes crashed immediately. Many of these pioneers dreamed of flights to the moon or Mars. Sometimes, however, they were content with more practical goals - for example, delivering mail by rocket.
The Czech Ludvik Ocenasek hoped that mail between Europe and the US could be delivered by rocket. In March 1930 he demonstrated several rockets propelled by gunpowder. One reached a height of about one and a half kilometers. Unfortunately, he ran out of funds during the Great Depression. He couldn't continue his work.
Another rocket researcher was a little more successful near him. The Austrian Friedrich Schmiedl dreamed of being able to deliver post to remote mountain villages - and later of post traffic between European countries. In 1931 his rocket transported 102 mail items from the Schöckl-Berg in Graz to Sankt Radegund. A few months later, another rocket was carrying 333 mail items. With this early success, Schmiedl hoped to build a rocket that would carry mail across the English Channel. But for him too, the global economic crisis put an end to his dreams. There was no longer any talk of rocket mail deliveries.
Mail rocket
The mail rocket was a rocket developed in the 1930s for the transport of mail. It had a primitive, single-stage drive and had a compartment for mail in the head of the rocket. Since the missile could only be used once and left a lot to be desired in terms of both target accuracy and cost efficiency, it was never used commercially from the start. It also failed because of the rapid development of air traffic, which was able to take on this task much more cheaply.
April 15, 1931: The first German postal rocket designed by Reinhold Tiling is tested at Dümmer near Osnabrück
First start
The first post rocket was successfully detonated on February 2, 1931 by the Graz-based researcher Friedrich Schmiedl on the Schöckl north of Graz. He already had ideas from 1914, at the age of 12, to shoot mail out of Przemy?l with a rocket. But they were not taken seriously. The remote-controlled rocket V 7 (V for experimental rocket) reached the village of St. Radegund about five kilometers away and landed with the aid of a parachute. It transported 102 letters. The first postal rocket to be regarded as regular in Austria was the R 1, which Schmiedl ignited on September 9, 1931 on the Hochtrötsch in the municipality of Semriach. Subsequently, he successfully carried mail in this way a few more times.
The failure of an idea
Schmiedl had in mind to use postal rockets to transport mail between hard-to-reach mountain villages and between large cities, but the idea did not meet with the responsible Austrian postal officials. Similar ideas also existed in Germany at the same time. For example, a rocket mail line Berlin-Cologne was thought of, and elsewhere, the designer Gerhard Zucker launched several mail rockets in Cuxhaven and in the Harz Mountains in 1933. But here, too, the idea could not prevail. When Zucker presented his ideas about this type of mail and postcard delivery to the National Socialist authorities in 1934, he was offered research funds to instead bomb his rockets, which Zucker refused and consequently brought him into disrepute among the new rulers. Sugar then emigrated to Great Britain and tried to interest the authorities in the use of postal missiles. Successful attempts in the county of Sussex brought media coverage ("First British rocket mail") and made Zucker think of a rocket mail connection between Dover and Calais. But a subsequent technically unsuccessful demonstration on July 31, 1934 in front of official representatives on the Outer Hebridean Islands prevented success. Back in Germany, Zucker was still trying to launch postal rockets in the 1970s. But after two people were killed in the accident at the rocket demonstration in Braunlage in 1964, the legislation was changed accordingly, so that from now on the launching of rockets with an altitude of over 100 m by private individuals was prohibited. In Austria, the idea of a rocket mail came to an end earlier. Friedrich Schmiedl dreamed, among other things, of a rocket mail line Ljubljana-Graz-Bern, but had to give up his plans due to new legal provisions of 1934. At that time, possession of explosives that were necessary for rocket detonations became a criminal offense.
Significance for philately
A postcard carried on the first German post rocket flight ("(K) FTL3" from Tiling, April 15, 1931)
The mail rocket was important for philatelists right from the start. Both Schmiedl and Zucker issued their own philatelic collector's items with special motifs related to the postal rocket. Gerhard Zucker, for example, had brought out envelopes in England that were intended to be transported by rocket, and on the occasion of the launch of Schmiedl's mail rocket, he issued a block of stamps in four different designs with a total circulation of 1,200. The postal rocket tests were partially financed with the proceeds from the sales.
However, this approach had considerable consequences for both researchers. Both the British and Austrian Post saw this as a business competition and took appropriate steps. The UK's Royal Mail viewed sugar as a "threat to postal revenues and the security of the country", which led to the researcher being sent back to Germany. The Austrian Post issued an ordinance that prohibited the issuance of private stamps, so that Schmiedl lost a significant source of income.
In honor of the Austrian pioneer of the postal rocket, model rockets of the Thor type were launched around the 90th birthday of Friedrich Schmiedl in Semriach from 14 to 16 May 1992. In 2002 the Philatelic Society of Graz organized several post rocket launches in Semriach on the occasion of Schmiedl's 100th birthday.
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Car ride through the watt in front of the island of Neuwerk.
where the launch took place
Rocket launch Thale, Harz 1933
1st night flight, Hasselfelde 1933
night flight, Thalendorf 1933
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Delivered with the rocket "Herta" 1934
LOOK AT THE NSDAP RUBBER STAMP IN THE LEFT CORNER !!!!!!!! 1934
LOOK AT THE NSDAP RUBBER STAMP IN THE LEFT CORNER, Thale 1934
LOOK AT THE NSDAP RUBBER STAMP IN THE LEFT CORNER, 1934
All signed by Gerhard Zucker himself.
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Herr Zucker himself at his rocket 1934 FRONT
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