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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

 

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smauggie
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13 Apr 2021
07:50:07pm
I believe this is Sirmoor State Scott# O3 issued in 1890-91. However I would be open to being corrected if I am wrong.

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13 Apr 2021
08:40:10pm
re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

I agree Antonio. Scott O3. Valued at $12 in my old 2007 Scott. It took me a while to find it.

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13 Apr 2021
08:43:43pm
re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Thanks TIm! Valued at $700 in my 2014 Scott book. Does anyone have a 2021 scott value for it? I am considering getting a cert for it and would need to know the latest catalog value I think.

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13 Apr 2021
09:51:19pm
re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Wow ... that is quite an increase in value Antonio. That is quite a find!

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jillcrow

14 Apr 2021
04:08:16am
re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Aren't you being a bit optimistic trying to identify this type of stamp in Scott? There seem to be several possibilities in the SG Commonwealth Catalogue.

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14 Apr 2021
08:18:30am
re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

I had the same thought as Jill did. So, I pulled out my 2020 SG catalogue. A lot more overprint types -- 13, four of those handstamps which can immediately be eliminated. Of the nine remaining there are only two that are close and one of those is san serif. So, I ID this as SG71 with an overprint of T15. See image below of a scan of part of the catalogue page with overprint T15 and the catalog data with added marks to help with the ID. The value used of SG71 is GBP28. Also below is an image of the original stamp with red lines corresponding to the marked up catalogue.


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After reviewing this again. I looked for an SG variety of the One Anna with a large value. The only one that fits is SG56 and I don't think it is a match (alignment or color) but I did the same markup for this entry as I did for SG71. Image below.


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14 Apr 2021
09:37:01am
re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

"Aren't you being a bit optimistic trying to identify this type of stamp in Scott? There seem to be several possibilities in the SG Commonwealth Catalogue."



Optimistic? More like Scott is all I have. Only three types of overprints are listed there. It does not surprise me that the SG catalog is more detailed.

The stamp was part of a small lot of Sirmoor stamps I purchased for $7 so I feel like I am coming out well regardless of what it turns out to be.

Thank you Banknote for that detailed information. It does seem to be that overprint 15, SG 71.

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14 Apr 2021
11:54:52am
re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Here is an image of the lot I got.

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Jack

14 Apr 2021
12:07:09pm
re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Antonio,

The 6p green official best I can tell, looks like SG70 (same overprint as the 1a) but the overprint is far from clear. Image below adjusted and marked:

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14 Apr 2021
12:22:06pm
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That would be my guess as well, based on the information you provided.

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13 Apr 2021
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I believe this is Sirmoor State Scott# O3 issued in 1890-91. However I would be open to being corrected if I am wrong.

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Tim
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13 Apr 2021
08:40:10pm

re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

I agree Antonio. Scott O3. Valued at $12 in my old 2007 Scott. It took me a while to find it.

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13 Apr 2021
08:43:43pm

re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Thanks TIm! Valued at $700 in my 2014 Scott book. Does anyone have a 2021 scott value for it? I am considering getting a cert for it and would need to know the latest catalog value I think.

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Tim
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13 Apr 2021
09:51:19pm

re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Wow ... that is quite an increase in value Antonio. That is quite a find!

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"Isaac Asimov once said if his doctor told him he was dying, he wouldn’t lament, he would just type a little faster. "

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jillcrow

14 Apr 2021
04:08:16am

re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Aren't you being a bit optimistic trying to identify this type of stamp in Scott? There seem to be several possibilities in the SG Commonwealth Catalogue.

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Jack
14 Apr 2021
08:18:30am

re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

I had the same thought as Jill did. So, I pulled out my 2020 SG catalogue. A lot more overprint types -- 13, four of those handstamps which can immediately be eliminated. Of the nine remaining there are only two that are close and one of those is san serif. So, I ID this as SG71 with an overprint of T15. See image below of a scan of part of the catalogue page with overprint T15 and the catalog data with added marks to help with the ID. The value used of SG71 is GBP28. Also below is an image of the original stamp with red lines corresponding to the marked up catalogue.


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After reviewing this again. I looked for an SG variety of the One Anna with a large value. The only one that fits is SG56 and I don't think it is a match (alignment or color) but I did the same markup for this entry as I did for SG71. Image below.


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14 Apr 2021
09:37:01am

re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

"Aren't you being a bit optimistic trying to identify this type of stamp in Scott? There seem to be several possibilities in the SG Commonwealth Catalogue."



Optimistic? More like Scott is all I have. Only three types of overprints are listed there. It does not surprise me that the SG catalog is more detailed.

The stamp was part of a small lot of Sirmoor stamps I purchased for $7 so I feel like I am coming out well regardless of what it turns out to be.

Thank you Banknote for that detailed information. It does seem to be that overprint 15, SG 71.

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14 Apr 2021
11:54:52am

re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Here is an image of the lot I got.

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Jack
14 Apr 2021
12:07:09pm

re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

Antonio,

The 6p green official best I can tell, looks like SG70 (same overprint as the 1a) but the overprint is far from clear. Image below adjusted and marked:

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14 Apr 2021
12:22:06pm

re: Sirmoor State Official Stamp Question

That would be my guess as well, based on the information you provided.

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