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Europe/Germany : Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

 

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mbo1142
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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

29 Jul 2021
12:04:25pm
I have the following stamp that I am sure is a fake only because it is very nice and has full gum and because the Scott Cat value is $410. The stamp is Scott # 15N1.

My question is, is there any place on the Web that can tell me what to look for to tell the difference between a real one and a fake one or can someone on SOR tell me what to look for? I do not want to waste my time and money to send to an expert if I can tell the difference.

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Thanks for any help.

Mel

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29 Jul 2021
12:52:06pm
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Looks OK
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gerom

29 Jul 2021
04:00:27pm
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Hi Mel
In Michel's catalogue the forgeries are typo and offset.
The resolution of the picture is not sufficient, but I think Charlie2009 is right.
George

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29 Jul 2021
04:27:44pm
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

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It's a bit sharper now.

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29 Jul 2021
04:45:06pm
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Thanks, much better picture. Following is a picture of the back. I do not detect any offset marks, but did discover a printed signature that is in the lower left of the stamp on back. Signature is hard to make out so the stamp is upside down to better see the signature.


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Edit to add. Authentication marks used by the German BPP indicate that the placement of signatures on imperf stamps is in the lower left of the stamp. That is where the mark is, but being upside down scares me.

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29 Jul 2021
05:07:31pm
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

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gerom

29 Jul 2021
05:30:02pm
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=24285#172504
Offset-printing method,not print on the back of the stamp.
HockeyNut explain very well(see link)

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gerom

29 Jul 2021
06:29:09pm
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Your stamp should show on the border lines of the design or letters this characteristic photogravure jaggedness

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

29 Jul 2021
06:58:00pm
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

You guys are great. Do believe it is Richter. I have a microscope, so will try to take a picture of the edges as shown. I looked with my 10x and it looks promising. Will post a picture if able.

Again thanks, I am feeling pretty good at the moment that what I have is the real deal.

Will keep you informed.

Mel

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30 Jul 2021
09:30:55am
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

There are 2 types of this stamp
a) Printed with watercolor (UV rosakarmin in color)
b) Printed with oil paint (under UV lamp dunkelrosa in color)

There are 2 known fakes.
The first is printed in Buchdruck under the UV lamp yellowish paper, the 2nd printed in Offset printing on paper similar to the original)

Looks like your “POTSCHTA” stamp is real.
Has Richter approval and is in the correct place on the back of the stamp.

And to be sure look at the following link just as Gerom adviced


https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=24285#172504

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31 Jul 2021
09:24:43am
re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Thank everyone for the help.

SOR is a great place.

Mel

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mbo1142

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
29 Jul 2021
12:04:25pm

I have the following stamp that I am sure is a fake only because it is very nice and has full gum and because the Scott Cat value is $410. The stamp is Scott # 15N1.

My question is, is there any place on the Web that can tell me what to look for to tell the difference between a real one and a fake one or can someone on SOR tell me what to look for? I do not want to waste my time and money to send to an expert if I can tell the difference.

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Thanks for any help.

Mel

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29 Jul 2021
12:52:06pm

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Looks OK
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gerom

29 Jul 2021
04:00:27pm

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Hi Mel
In Michel's catalogue the forgeries are typo and offset.
The resolution of the picture is not sufficient, but I think Charlie2009 is right.
George

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29 Jul 2021
04:27:44pm

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
29 Jul 2021
04:45:06pm

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Thanks, much better picture. Following is a picture of the back. I do not detect any offset marks, but did discover a printed signature that is in the lower left of the stamp on back. Signature is hard to make out so the stamp is upside down to better see the signature.


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Edit to add. Authentication marks used by the German BPP indicate that the placement of signatures on imperf stamps is in the lower left of the stamp. That is where the mark is, but being upside down scares me.

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29 Jul 2021
05:07:31pm

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Richter BPP Image Not Found

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gerom

29 Jul 2021
05:30:02pm

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=24285#172504
Offset-printing method,not print on the back of the stamp.
HockeyNut explain very well(see link)

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gerom

29 Jul 2021
06:29:09pm

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Your stamp should show on the border lines of the design or letters this characteristic photogravure jaggedness

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mbo1142

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
29 Jul 2021
06:58:00pm

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

You guys are great. Do believe it is Richter. I have a microscope, so will try to take a picture of the edges as shown. I looked with my 10x and it looks promising. Will post a picture if able.

Again thanks, I am feeling pretty good at the moment that what I have is the real deal.

Will keep you informed.

Mel

Edit to add image. See below


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HockeyNut

30 Jul 2021
09:30:55am

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

There are 2 types of this stamp
a) Printed with watercolor (UV rosakarmin in color)
b) Printed with oil paint (under UV lamp dunkelrosa in color)

There are 2 known fakes.
The first is printed in Buchdruck under the UV lamp yellowish paper, the 2nd printed in Offset printing on paper similar to the original)

Looks like your “POTSCHTA” stamp is real.
Has Richter approval and is in the correct place on the back of the stamp.

And to be sure look at the following link just as Gerom adviced


https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=24285#172504

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mbo1142

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
31 Jul 2021
09:24:43am

re: Russian Occupation East Saxony 1945

Thank everyone for the help.

SOR is a great place.

Mel

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