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Europe/Other : Question re Ireland Post and Go

 

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jthurd
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24 Aug 2021
10:55:36am
I have received a recent (August 2021) Post and Go stamp from (southern) Ireland. It is used, postmarked, on piece.

Can this be soaked?

If not, can it be removed from the paper without damage using alcohol?

I am interested to know of any others' experiences with similar items, *before* trying options.

Thanks.

James T. Hurd.
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jthurd
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29 Aug 2021
12:46:14pm
re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Thanks to all who viewed my question. Alas, I have had no responses.

I will try again, this time with a scanned image. This is a modern, recent (southern) Ireland Post-and-Go stamp, commemorating the ill-fated Titantic voyage.

Can this be soaked? If not, can the stamp be removed from the paper without damage using alcohol?

Any advice from those who have handled similar items?

J. T. Hurd.Image Not Found

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anglobob

29 Aug 2021
12:54:28pm
re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

In my opinion,this stamp is already damaged.It is a shame that someone thought it necessary to add a pen cancel.

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sheepshanks
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29 Aug 2021
02:06:13pm
re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

As this ebay seller is offering used ones off paper I would say that there is a way to remove them. Probably "Bestine". I would think that alchohol or petrol would not work, they don't on self adhesives which are basically similar.
Personally I would cut around and save that way.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/203538299554
Perhaps contact the seller and ask what they use.

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29 Aug 2021
02:14:50pm
re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Why would they add that awful pen cancel when the stamp already has a cancellation? It makes no sense what-so-ever!!

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29 Aug 2021
02:20:47pm
re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Harvey, it's the post office, why should anything make sense.

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31 Aug 2021
04:10:35am
re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Bestine basically is petrol, or rather a petroleum destillate, too - only a lighter fraction of it. Turpentine or turpentine substitute may also work. As has been written before, you may need to scrape off the remainder of the glue, e.g. with the edge of a ruler.

The UK post and go stamps seem to be stickier than other types of self-adhesives, maybe this applies to the Irish ones as well, considering they are very similar otherwise.

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01 Oct 2024
08:04:46pm
re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Just to add to this post, I recently got a number of these Irish post and go, and having some duplicates decided to give another recent purchase a trial.
In our local co-op Hardware store I bought a jar of "Circa 1850" pure lemon oil.The bottle says fine furniture treatment, no wax, no silicone. This was a 250ml jar cost around C$11.
Applied to the envelope paper, back of stamp with a cotton bud, within a minute I was able to slowly peel the paper away from the stamp. I used the flat edge of a bread bag tie to remove any gum, not that there was much. The stamp is now drying flat between parchment paper under a Scott catalogue. There do not appear to be any stains to the stamp but I'll confirm that when it's dried.
Just as a disclaimer the bottle does state poison, presumably if taken orally.
It also works on UK self adhesives but leaves a gum residue that is persistent, so I still just cut around them.

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03 Oct 2024
10:13:35am
re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

So having allowed the stamp to dry, no visible oil marks, back is not sticky and does not adhere to paper even when pressed down hard.Images of front and back below.
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However in view of the extra effort involved and the risk of damaging stamps, I will stick to trimming around the paper on self adhesive stamps, especially as the UK ones with slits tend to part company when peeling from the paper.

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jthurd

24 Aug 2021
10:55:36am

I have received a recent (August 2021) Post and Go stamp from (southern) Ireland. It is used, postmarked, on piece.

Can this be soaked?

If not, can it be removed from the paper without damage using alcohol?

I am interested to know of any others' experiences with similar items, *before* trying options.

Thanks.

James T. Hurd.

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jthurd

29 Aug 2021
12:46:14pm

re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Thanks to all who viewed my question. Alas, I have had no responses.

I will try again, this time with a scanned image. This is a modern, recent (southern) Ireland Post-and-Go stamp, commemorating the ill-fated Titantic voyage.

Can this be soaked? If not, can the stamp be removed from the paper without damage using alcohol?

Any advice from those who have handled similar items?

J. T. Hurd.Image Not Found

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anglobob

29 Aug 2021
12:54:28pm

re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

In my opinion,this stamp is already damaged.It is a shame that someone thought it necessary to add a pen cancel.

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sheepshanks

29 Aug 2021
02:06:13pm

re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

As this ebay seller is offering used ones off paper I would say that there is a way to remove them. Probably "Bestine". I would think that alchohol or petrol would not work, they don't on self adhesives which are basically similar.
Personally I would cut around and save that way.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/203538299554
Perhaps contact the seller and ask what they use.

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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
29 Aug 2021
02:14:50pm

re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Why would they add that awful pen cancel when the stamp already has a cancellation? It makes no sense what-so-ever!!

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"As anyone who has ever been around a cat for any length of time well knows cats have enormous patience with the limitations of the humankind."
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sheepshanks

29 Aug 2021
02:20:47pm

re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Harvey, it's the post office, why should anything make sense.

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jmh67

31 Aug 2021
04:10:35am

re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Bestine basically is petrol, or rather a petroleum destillate, too - only a lighter fraction of it. Turpentine or turpentine substitute may also work. As has been written before, you may need to scrape off the remainder of the glue, e.g. with the edge of a ruler.

The UK post and go stamps seem to be stickier than other types of self-adhesives, maybe this applies to the Irish ones as well, considering they are very similar otherwise.

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sheepshanks

01 Oct 2024
08:04:46pm

re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

Just to add to this post, I recently got a number of these Irish post and go, and having some duplicates decided to give another recent purchase a trial.
In our local co-op Hardware store I bought a jar of "Circa 1850" pure lemon oil.The bottle says fine furniture treatment, no wax, no silicone. This was a 250ml jar cost around C$11.
Applied to the envelope paper, back of stamp with a cotton bud, within a minute I was able to slowly peel the paper away from the stamp. I used the flat edge of a bread bag tie to remove any gum, not that there was much. The stamp is now drying flat between parchment paper under a Scott catalogue. There do not appear to be any stains to the stamp but I'll confirm that when it's dried.
Just as a disclaimer the bottle does state poison, presumably if taken orally.
It also works on UK self adhesives but leaves a gum residue that is persistent, so I still just cut around them.

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sheepshanks

03 Oct 2024
10:13:35am

re: Question re Ireland Post and Go

So having allowed the stamp to dry, no visible oil marks, back is not sticky and does not adhere to paper even when pressed down hard.Images of front and back below.
Image Not Found
Image Not Found
However in view of the extra effort involved and the risk of damaging stamps, I will stick to trimming around the paper on self adhesive stamps, especially as the UK ones with slits tend to part company when peeling from the paper.

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