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I've found lots of colour variations among the 3 types, but usually just 2 distinctive differences each time. However, this one #3N2, Type-III) seems to be all over the place. Most of them don't translate well to a scan, so I'm showing the three that do. Note the listed colours and my own terminology for these three.
Thoughts or references anyone?
Many thanks, Dave.
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For the shades, Michel will probably be your best reference. I took a peek at Michel. Unfortunately, on some types all they say is that there are shades. But, other types they do list some shades. You have to figure that these stamps were issued right after the war. There wasn't alot of stuff around to print stamps (paper, ink, etc.). Many shades are to be expected.
(I'm glad the article was of help.)
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I think there was a total of 3 printers, all using different paper and ink. SG lists "violet" as the default colour, with the note that "lots" of shades exist. The prices listed are for the cheapest.
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First of all, did you read the following post? (almost at the bottom) :
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=25204#178446
Then you will know that there are 3 different printings :
1) American Print (Bureau of Engraving and Printing, Washington.) Perf 10,75 - 11 : 11
2) English Print (Fa Harrison & Sons, London) Perf 14-14,75 : 14 - 14,75
3) German Print (Firma Westermann, Braunschweig) Perf 11 : 11,5
So you say it's type III. Can you confirm that it is the German Print?
I believe I posted another message which explains the differences between those 3 (And not only the perferation)
"For the shades, Michel will probably be your best reference. I took a peek at Michel. Unfortunately, on some types all they say is that there are shades. But, other types they do list some shades. You have to figure that these stamps were issued right after the war. There wasn't alot of stuff around to print stamps (paper, ink, etc.). Many shades are to be expected."
Michael78651 is right.
In the older Michel-catalogs there where many shades mentioned but they were growing and growing and so now-a-days Michel does not mention them anymore.
Will come back to this.......
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Look at this awsome site (Not only for AM-post)
https://worldstampsproject.org/germany-allied-occupation-am-post/
I can not compete with that....
Click on the stamp pictures for more details.....
Mark this URL guys.
Have fun
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I've dug out my ancient 1974 Michel Specialised:
American print: blue-violet, medium purple-violet
British print: light blue-violet to blue-violet
German print: dull blue-violet to medium blue-violet
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You may want to look for paper types rather than the shades.
2 easy way to do this.
1) using a UV light. Type x : radiates yellow-white to purple-grey
2) type y : radiates dark purple-grey
3) type z : radiates dark voilet-grey
or using a thicknes guage. x) 0.11mm
y) 0.08-0.09mm
z) 0.10-012mm (thick rough paper, may contain wood)
The difference between the American, German and British print:
German print : has the triangle on the left side (Offset)
American "" : no triangle (offset)
British "" : no triangle (gravure printing)
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Another old post from Michael78651
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=7444#171738
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Hockey Nut and Opa...
Thank you for sharing the interesting background re the AMG issues.
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All this info is certainly helpful, thanks. And the links are worth referring to for more than just the issue I was asking about.
Again, Michael###'s article is very simple, well-written, and a great primary reference point.
Cheers, Dave.
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09:06:13pm
Going through these stamps to sort out the 3 types (kudos to Michael###s for his excellent article on this!)
I've found lots of colour variations among the 3 types, but usually just 2 distinctive differences each time. However, this one #3N2, Type-III) seems to be all over the place. Most of them don't translate well to a scan, so I'm showing the three that do. Note the listed colours and my own terminology for these three.
Thoughts or references anyone?
Many thanks, Dave.
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12:06:15am
re: Any experts on AMG-Occupied Germany?
For the shades, Michel will probably be your best reference. I took a peek at Michel. Unfortunately, on some types all they say is that there are shades. But, other types they do list some shades. You have to figure that these stamps were issued right after the war. There wasn't alot of stuff around to print stamps (paper, ink, etc.). Many shades are to be expected.
(I'm glad the article was of help.)
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re: Any experts on AMG-Occupied Germany?
I think there was a total of 3 printers, all using different paper and ink. SG lists "violet" as the default colour, with the note that "lots" of shades exist. The prices listed are for the cheapest.
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re: Any experts on AMG-Occupied Germany?
First of all, did you read the following post? (almost at the bottom) :
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=25204#178446
Then you will know that there are 3 different printings :
1) American Print (Bureau of Engraving and Printing, Washington.) Perf 10,75 - 11 : 11
2) English Print (Fa Harrison & Sons, London) Perf 14-14,75 : 14 - 14,75
3) German Print (Firma Westermann, Braunschweig) Perf 11 : 11,5
So you say it's type III. Can you confirm that it is the German Print?
I believe I posted another message which explains the differences between those 3 (And not only the perferation)
"For the shades, Michel will probably be your best reference. I took a peek at Michel. Unfortunately, on some types all they say is that there are shades. But, other types they do list some shades. You have to figure that these stamps were issued right after the war. There wasn't alot of stuff around to print stamps (paper, ink, etc.). Many shades are to be expected."
Michael78651 is right.
In the older Michel-catalogs there where many shades mentioned but they were growing and growing and so now-a-days Michel does not mention them anymore.
Will come back to this.......
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re: Any experts on AMG-Occupied Germany?
Look at this awsome site (Not only for AM-post)
https://worldstampsproject.org/germany-allied-occupation-am-post/
I can not compete with that....
Click on the stamp pictures for more details.....
Mark this URL guys.
Have fun
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re: Any experts on AMG-Occupied Germany?
I've dug out my ancient 1974 Michel Specialised:
American print: blue-violet, medium purple-violet
British print: light blue-violet to blue-violet
German print: dull blue-violet to medium blue-violet
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re: Any experts on AMG-Occupied Germany?
You may want to look for paper types rather than the shades.
2 easy way to do this.
1) using a UV light. Type x : radiates yellow-white to purple-grey
2) type y : radiates dark purple-grey
3) type z : radiates dark voilet-grey
or using a thicknes guage. x) 0.11mm
y) 0.08-0.09mm
z) 0.10-012mm (thick rough paper, may contain wood)
The difference between the American, German and British print:
German print : has the triangle on the left side (Offset)
American "" : no triangle (offset)
British "" : no triangle (gravure printing)
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re: Any experts on AMG-Occupied Germany?
Another old post from Michael78651
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=7444#171738
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08:09:14am
re: Any experts on AMG-Occupied Germany?
Hockey Nut and Opa...
Thank you for sharing the interesting background re the AMG issues.
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05:05:55pm
re: Any experts on AMG-Occupied Germany?
All this info is certainly helpful, thanks. And the links are worth referring to for more than just the issue I was asking about.
Again, Michael###'s article is very simple, well-written, and a great primary reference point.
Cheers, Dave.
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