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Europe/Germany : German States Varieties

 

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Horamakhet
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05 Feb 2022
10:55:32pm
Hi to all

I am slowly going through the family accumulation of postage stamps and am working my way through Germany and German States at the moment.

Item one has the numeral 2 of twenty deformed on the bottom values.

Item two, same again, but also the word Pfennig is deformed also.

Item three. The numeral on the bottom right hand corner has the top of the five coloured in.

I have noticed varieties on the following three stamps are they common.
Regards

Franz

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HockeyNut
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06 Feb 2022
01:20:28pm
re: German States Varieties

Hello,

All the variations you mentioned here are not in the Michel Special Catalog.

I have to mention that from the 20 Pfg stamp there are 14 different stamps.

1876-1881 Mi 40 Watermark 2 3 different colors and 4 plate errors known.
1881 Mi 50 Watermark 3 just 1 spectrum of colors and 2 plate errors known.
1888-1900 Mi 57A Watermark 4
1888-1900 Mi 57B Watermark 4 paper x with 4 different colors and paper y with 2 different colors.
from Mi 57B are 4 plate errors known.

The 5 Pfg value
1876-1881 Mi 38 Watermark 2 and 4 different colors.
1888-1900 Mi 55A Watermark 4
1888-1900 Mi 55B Watermark 4 with 2 different colors.

Maybe it is a good idea to first determine the different watermarks.

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Like i said before : Michel Special does not confirm your findings.
They call it "Druck zufälligkeiten"

Do not know how to translate that, sorry

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pigdoc

06 Feb 2022
01:34:41pm
re: German States Varieties

"Printing errors"?

-Paul

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Calstamp

06 Feb 2022
04:23:24pm
re: German States Varieties

Paul: Am thinking it’s “random printings”.

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Horamakhet
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06 Feb 2022
07:15:34pm
re: German States Varieties

Hi to all

I looked up my daughters german dictionary, random printing is what is said.

Hockeynut, thanks for the information, it is a great help, I will check all the watermarks.

MY family have been collecting stamps since they were invented and over the centuries they accumulated thousands.
No one wanted them and my siblings remembered that I collected stamps, so I was given everything. It is a long job sorting them out. Most are probably going to be valueless monetary wise, but to philatelists they are always of interest.

I will need to buy catalogues for all the various countries, but so far have only got China, and of course all the specialist Australian catalogues as that is what my field of collecting is.

You never know what turns up in old collections. there are dozens of tins that I have not even opened yet.

Regards

Franz

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Opa
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07 Feb 2022
02:02:05pm
re: German States Varieties

HockeyNut is right, Although The Michel does not list all errors. I would put them aside. You never know.

I have a catalog for the 1922-23 Large numerals that lists hundreds of plate errors not listed in the Michel.

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Horamakhet
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07 Feb 2022
08:14:22pm
re: German States Varieties

Hi Opa

Thanks for the advice. That is what I will do.

I have lots of German stamps that the family just accumulated and put in tins.
Sometimes I buy albums in opp shops, what they call in the USA & Europe thrift shops. I buy them for the Australian stamps, but recently I purchased two schoolboy albums from the late 1930's and there are a lot of German stamps in them as well. I will eventually get around to them, who knows what may be lurking in them
Regards

Franz

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Horamakhet

05 Feb 2022
10:55:32pm

Hi to all

I am slowly going through the family accumulation of postage stamps and am working my way through Germany and German States at the moment.

Item one has the numeral 2 of twenty deformed on the bottom values.

Item two, same again, but also the word Pfennig is deformed also.

Item three. The numeral on the bottom right hand corner has the top of the five coloured in.

I have noticed varieties on the following three stamps are they common.
Regards

Franz

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HockeyNut

06 Feb 2022
01:20:28pm

re: German States Varieties

Hello,

All the variations you mentioned here are not in the Michel Special Catalog.

I have to mention that from the 20 Pfg stamp there are 14 different stamps.

1876-1881 Mi 40 Watermark 2 3 different colors and 4 plate errors known.
1881 Mi 50 Watermark 3 just 1 spectrum of colors and 2 plate errors known.
1888-1900 Mi 57A Watermark 4
1888-1900 Mi 57B Watermark 4 paper x with 4 different colors and paper y with 2 different colors.
from Mi 57B are 4 plate errors known.

The 5 Pfg value
1876-1881 Mi 38 Watermark 2 and 4 different colors.
1888-1900 Mi 55A Watermark 4
1888-1900 Mi 55B Watermark 4 with 2 different colors.

Maybe it is a good idea to first determine the different watermarks.

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Like i said before : Michel Special does not confirm your findings.
They call it "Druck zufälligkeiten"

Do not know how to translate that, sorry

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pigdoc

06 Feb 2022
01:34:41pm

re: German States Varieties

"Printing errors"?

-Paul

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Calstamp

06 Feb 2022
04:23:24pm

re: German States Varieties

Paul: Am thinking it’s “random printings”.

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Horamakhet

06 Feb 2022
07:15:34pm

re: German States Varieties

Hi to all

I looked up my daughters german dictionary, random printing is what is said.

Hockeynut, thanks for the information, it is a great help, I will check all the watermarks.

MY family have been collecting stamps since they were invented and over the centuries they accumulated thousands.
No one wanted them and my siblings remembered that I collected stamps, so I was given everything. It is a long job sorting them out. Most are probably going to be valueless monetary wise, but to philatelists they are always of interest.

I will need to buy catalogues for all the various countries, but so far have only got China, and of course all the specialist Australian catalogues as that is what my field of collecting is.

You never know what turns up in old collections. there are dozens of tins that I have not even opened yet.

Regards

Franz

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Opa

07 Feb 2022
02:02:05pm

re: German States Varieties

HockeyNut is right, Although The Michel does not list all errors. I would put them aside. You never know.

I have a catalog for the 1922-23 Large numerals that lists hundreds of plate errors not listed in the Michel.

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Horamakhet

07 Feb 2022
08:14:22pm

re: German States Varieties

Hi Opa

Thanks for the advice. That is what I will do.

I have lots of German stamps that the family just accumulated and put in tins.
Sometimes I buy albums in opp shops, what they call in the USA & Europe thrift shops. I buy them for the Australian stamps, but recently I purchased two schoolboy albums from the late 1930's and there are a lot of German stamps in them as well. I will eventually get around to them, who knows what may be lurking in them
Regards

Franz

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