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Dambrovski
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In Arduis Fidelis

24 Feb 2022
03:38:45pm
Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have come across a couple of German stamps with unlisted overprints.

The first is a 1921 issue with the overprint 'Postwertzeichen - Ausstellung Regensburg 26-28 V 1923' which translates as 'Postage stamps - Regensburg exhibition 26-28 V 1923'

The second is 1947 Allied Occupation issue 12pf grey with what looks like a '16 Pfenning' overprint, although I'm not absolutely sure about this.

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gerom

24 Feb 2022
05:12:49pm
re: Has anyone seen these before?

See HockeyNut thread : https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=24476#173422
16=district number (OPD Erfurt)

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jmh67

25 Feb 2022
04:57:53am
re: Has anyone seen these before?

The old 10 Pf stamp with the advertisement overprint was already invalid for postage in 1923, or at the very least it had lost any appreciable value. Such stamps were often used up as advertisement stickers or sealing stamps, sometimes years after the end of the inflation era. The handstamp on top does not look like a postmark, it might be the seal of a club or dealer (it is hard to read).

The "16 / Bad Tennstedt" overprint (from a small town northwest of Erfurt) is one of many that were applied after the 1948 currency reform in the Soviet Occupation Zone which followed the one in the Western zones and which required some provisional measures. As the old stamps were only worth 1/10 of their previous value, stamp stocks in the post offices to be sold at face value were to be overprinted with the "district handstamp" which contained the number of the postal district and the place name. These provisional issues were only valid for a short time. Many forgeries exist. Your specimen looks at least plausible, but without a date on the postmark it is still hard to judge.

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HockeyNut
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25 Feb 2022
10:04:32am
re: Has anyone seen these before?

Just as Gerom stated. For more info look at the previous posts :

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...


And for the other "stamp" just as jmh67 stated.

Below are a couple of other examples :

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Rhein Ruhr Hilfe Pfadfinder Korps = Rhein Ruhr Help Boy Scout Corps

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Wählt Hindenburg = Choose Hindenburg

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6. Internationaler Briefmarken Händler Tag in München = 6th International Stamp Dealers Day in Munich

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HGW Grille mit Gas! = (something like) Cook with Gas!

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Wählt die Parteien der Republik = Elect the parties of the Republic

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25 Feb 2022
10:16:34am
re: Has anyone seen these before?

It is a shame that your "16 / Bad Tennstedt" overprint is damaged.

The Michel catalog value would be 5 euros plus a extra surcharge of 130 euros (when it is genuine and not damaged !)

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In Arduis Fidelis

26 Feb 2022
01:35:14pm
re: Has anyone seen these before?

Thank you Gentlemen,

It has been a welcome education. I wll keep an eye out for any more of these overprints.

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Dambrovski

In Arduis Fidelis
24 Feb 2022
03:38:45pm

Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have come across a couple of German stamps with unlisted overprints.

The first is a 1921 issue with the overprint 'Postwertzeichen - Ausstellung Regensburg 26-28 V 1923' which translates as 'Postage stamps - Regensburg exhibition 26-28 V 1923'

The second is 1947 Allied Occupation issue 12pf grey with what looks like a '16 Pfenning' overprint, although I'm not absolutely sure about this.

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Your thoughts would be welcome.

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gerom

24 Feb 2022
05:12:49pm

re: Has anyone seen these before?

See HockeyNut thread : https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=24476#173422
16=district number (OPD Erfurt)

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jmh67

25 Feb 2022
04:57:53am

re: Has anyone seen these before?

The old 10 Pf stamp with the advertisement overprint was already invalid for postage in 1923, or at the very least it had lost any appreciable value. Such stamps were often used up as advertisement stickers or sealing stamps, sometimes years after the end of the inflation era. The handstamp on top does not look like a postmark, it might be the seal of a club or dealer (it is hard to read).

The "16 / Bad Tennstedt" overprint (from a small town northwest of Erfurt) is one of many that were applied after the 1948 currency reform in the Soviet Occupation Zone which followed the one in the Western zones and which required some provisional measures. As the old stamps were only worth 1/10 of their previous value, stamp stocks in the post offices to be sold at face value were to be overprinted with the "district handstamp" which contained the number of the postal district and the place name. These provisional issues were only valid for a short time. Many forgeries exist. Your specimen looks at least plausible, but without a date on the postmark it is still hard to judge.

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HockeyNut

25 Feb 2022
10:04:32am

re: Has anyone seen these before?

Just as Gerom stated. For more info look at the previous posts :

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...


And for the other "stamp" just as jmh67 stated.

Below are a couple of other examples :

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Rhein Ruhr Hilfe Pfadfinder Korps = Rhein Ruhr Help Boy Scout Corps

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Wählt Hindenburg = Choose Hindenburg

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6. Internationaler Briefmarken Händler Tag in München = 6th International Stamp Dealers Day in Munich

Image Not Found
HGW Grille mit Gas! = (something like) Cook with Gas!

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Wählt die Parteien der Republik = Elect the parties of the Republic

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HockeyNut

25 Feb 2022
10:16:34am

re: Has anyone seen these before?

It is a shame that your "16 / Bad Tennstedt" overprint is damaged.

The Michel catalog value would be 5 euros plus a extra surcharge of 130 euros (when it is genuine and not damaged !)

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Dambrovski

In Arduis Fidelis
26 Feb 2022
01:35:14pm

re: Has anyone seen these before?

Thank you Gentlemen,

It has been a welcome education. I wll keep an eye out for any more of these overprints.

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