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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Germany 583 Cancel

 

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Jimjih
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16 May 2022
01:42:09pm
Anyone know what this cancel is (assuming that it is a cancel)? The stamp appears to be used. Thanks.Image Not Found

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joesm

17 May 2022
07:13:32am
re: Germany 583 Cancel

It’s very unusual. I hope that someone can enlighten us.

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HockeyNut
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18 May 2022
07:55:10am
re: Germany 583 Cancel

Never seen that!

I do not believe it is a part of a cancellation.

Most cancellations are like shown below.

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Maybe it is what the germans call "MACHE" (Stamp has been manipulated)

The ink of the zig-zag curve is too black and too fat

The michel catalog number is 968

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Jimjih
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20 May 2022
12:48:28pm
re: Germany 583 Cancel

Thanks for the response. Yes, I have seen many with beautiful cancels like the ones you show.

Jim

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jmh67

21 May 2022
08:59:58am
re: Germany 583 Cancel

Could be part of a machine cancel or of a cancellation on arrival, but not necessarily of a German one.

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23 May 2022
10:15:48pm
re: Germany 583 Cancel

Stumped ?
The panel is stumped for the first time in recent memory.

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philatelia
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24 May 2022
06:14:14am
re: Germany 583 Cancel

The symbol for the Leipzig fair is a double M (see pic). Could this be some type of show themed overprint or cancel or way to invalidate unsold stock?

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psgStamper
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30 May 2022
07:39:32pm
re: Germany 583 Cancel

The "Double M" comes from "Muster Messe" (pattern or sample fair). It is essentially a trade fair. I had the opportunity to attend the fair in the late 70's for the company I worked for. The fair last about a month. As Leipzig was in East Germany at the time, I came away with many interesting memories on entering and leaving East Germany and also while I there. It was an interesting time.

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Jimjih

16 May 2022
01:42:09pm

Anyone know what this cancel is (assuming that it is a cancel)? The stamp appears to be used. Thanks.Image Not Found

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joesm

17 May 2022
07:13:32am

re: Germany 583 Cancel

It’s very unusual. I hope that someone can enlighten us.

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HockeyNut

18 May 2022
07:55:10am

re: Germany 583 Cancel

Never seen that!

I do not believe it is a part of a cancellation.

Most cancellations are like shown below.

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Image Not Found

Image Not Found

Image Not Found

Maybe it is what the germans call "MACHE" (Stamp has been manipulated)

The ink of the zig-zag curve is too black and too fat

The michel catalog number is 968

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Jimjih

20 May 2022
12:48:28pm

re: Germany 583 Cancel

Thanks for the response. Yes, I have seen many with beautiful cancels like the ones you show.

Jim

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jmh67

21 May 2022
08:59:58am

re: Germany 583 Cancel

Could be part of a machine cancel or of a cancellation on arrival, but not necessarily of a German one.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
23 May 2022
10:15:48pm

re: Germany 583 Cancel

Stumped ?
The panel is stumped for the first time in recent memory.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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philatelia

24 May 2022
06:14:14am

re: Germany 583 Cancel

The symbol for the Leipzig fair is a double M (see pic). Could this be some type of show themed overprint or cancel or way to invalidate unsold stock?

Image Not Found

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"August 2023 - selling penny start bargain lots on EBay - https://www.ebay.com/str/philatelia"

www.ebay.com/str/phi ...
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psgStamper

30 May 2022
07:39:32pm

re: Germany 583 Cancel

The "Double M" comes from "Muster Messe" (pattern or sample fair). It is essentially a trade fair. I had the opportunity to attend the fair in the late 70's for the company I worked for. The fair last about a month. As Leipzig was in East Germany at the time, I came away with many interesting memories on entering and leaving East Germany and also while I there. It was an interesting time.

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