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Can you show us an image of the stamp in question? SG 53 is 1½d rose-red of 1870 catalogued at £1900 used.
The 1½d. SG 51-52 has the plate number in the cross hatching bottom right and left. 1,2,3,6,8,9,10.
Edit. To add plate one did not have the number on the stamp, plate 2 was defective and not used.
2nd. Edit ok you mean Sg 166, illustration 53. In which case ignore my comments above.
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Hi EvertonDave,
I guess you're referring to the surface printed stamp SG 166 1d Venetian red which is SG type 53.
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If you are talking SG 166 the "plating" is the two letters in the bottom corners. What is the purpose - are you trying to do a sheet reconstruction? If so the top left stamp would be A - A, the stamp adjacent to the right would be A - B, the stamp directly below it would be B - A and so forth. I have a very partial sheet reconstruction of GB Scott #3 (109 stamps) that some collector finally gave up on - still thinking what to do with it - too old to think about finishing what he started.
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My old 1977 SG Specialised QV catalogue refers to a number of plates (such as imprimaturs known from plates 1, 2, 4 to 10 and 12 to 33) and also to "many frame breaks and constant varieties" but it doesn't describe these.
I've not seen any references for these varieties.
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Webpaper, sorry the letters indicate sheet position not plate numbers.
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Thought I covered that with the term "sheet reconstruction" and description of same. That is why I put the term "plating: in quotes,.
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Please excuse the size of the image.
Thanks for the responses. Obviously I did not have the right terminology. NOT plating but sheet reconstruction.
Any recommendations as to where I can (a) establish how many stamps there would be in a sheet and (b) where I might find random bags full of SG 166 ?
Again , many thanks.
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They would have been printed in sheets of 240 (12x20) as were the penny blacks, so you can use our penny black page as a guide.
Not sure where you could get them in bulk, auction sites, ebay etc.
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" ... and (b) where I might find random bags full of SG 166 ? ...."
My guess would be in Great Britain, starting in England, But first, I'd want to know what a decent copy sells for.
And what a kiloware bundle might cost.
If the expected cost is within your budget, start with a list of UK dealers and ask if any has such a group in stock. If such there be, that should take care of the easily available plate positions, at which time the fun should begin.
Make a want list for what you are then missing and circulate it among dealers and friendly collectors. Good luck
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There's a bloke called "dealing stamps" on ebay, selling what he calls multiple listings of 166s. He doesn't say how many in the pack - just a pic. And the price - £1.29 a pack. Couldn't get a coffee for that!
You could ask him for more info.
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Loads of them here:
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/314243927583?hash=item492a65ce1f:g:segAAOSwWe9jdsVr
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Thinking of trying to plate the 1880 1d venitian red. Please can anyone suggest sources.
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Can you show us an image of the stamp in question? SG 53 is 1½d rose-red of 1870 catalogued at £1900 used.
The 1½d. SG 51-52 has the plate number in the cross hatching bottom right and left. 1,2,3,6,8,9,10.
Edit. To add plate one did not have the number on the stamp, plate 2 was defective and not used.
2nd. Edit ok you mean Sg 166, illustration 53. In which case ignore my comments above.
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Hi EvertonDave,
I guess you're referring to the surface printed stamp SG 166 1d Venetian red which is SG type 53.
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If you are talking SG 166 the "plating" is the two letters in the bottom corners. What is the purpose - are you trying to do a sheet reconstruction? If so the top left stamp would be A - A, the stamp adjacent to the right would be A - B, the stamp directly below it would be B - A and so forth. I have a very partial sheet reconstruction of GB Scott #3 (109 stamps) that some collector finally gave up on - still thinking what to do with it - too old to think about finishing what he started.
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re: Plating SG53 ?
My old 1977 SG Specialised QV catalogue refers to a number of plates (such as imprimaturs known from plates 1, 2, 4 to 10 and 12 to 33) and also to "many frame breaks and constant varieties" but it doesn't describe these.
I've not seen any references for these varieties.
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Webpaper, sorry the letters indicate sheet position not plate numbers.
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Thought I covered that with the term "sheet reconstruction" and description of same. That is why I put the term "plating: in quotes,.
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Please excuse the size of the image.
Thanks for the responses. Obviously I did not have the right terminology. NOT plating but sheet reconstruction.
Any recommendations as to where I can (a) establish how many stamps there would be in a sheet and (b) where I might find random bags full of SG 166 ?
Again , many thanks.
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They would have been printed in sheets of 240 (12x20) as were the penny blacks, so you can use our penny black page as a guide.
Not sure where you could get them in bulk, auction sites, ebay etc.
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" ... and (b) where I might find random bags full of SG 166 ? ...."
My guess would be in Great Britain, starting in England, But first, I'd want to know what a decent copy sells for.
And what a kiloware bundle might cost.
If the expected cost is within your budget, start with a list of UK dealers and ask if any has such a group in stock. If such there be, that should take care of the easily available plate positions, at which time the fun should begin.
Make a want list for what you are then missing and circulate it among dealers and friendly collectors. Good luck
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re: Plating SG53 ?
There's a bloke called "dealing stamps" on ebay, selling what he calls multiple listings of 166s. He doesn't say how many in the pack - just a pic. And the price - £1.29 a pack. Couldn't get a coffee for that!
You could ask him for more info.
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re: Plating SG53 ?
Loads of them here:
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/314243927583?hash=item492a65ce1f:g:segAAOSwWe9jdsVr
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