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foudutimbre
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21 Aug 2023
09:09:44am

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Could you please tell me if this is a printing error or something other :

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1898

21 Aug 2023
09:33:40am
re: Benjamin franklin

@foudutimbre

Is it possible to make a scan of the reverse side?

It really appears faded, but just in case a scan of the reverse might help.

You might want to wash the stamp first.

I don't think it's a printing error.

It might be a result of some type of chemical reaction, but impossible to determine. I'm sure well meaning SOR members will suggest, but really we will never know for sure what caused it.

Good luck!

1898

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foudutimbre
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21 Aug 2023
09:48:51am

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re: Benjamin franklin

@ 1898, herewith

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I found it in an old stampbook with few others

Thanks a lot for your input

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21 Aug 2023
09:52:13am
re: Benjamin franklin

Hi Foudutimbre,

1898 is on the right track here.

The stamp is suffering from sunbleaching. If stamps are left in direct sunlight (or in this case partial sunlight) for an extended period of time it can bleach the stamp of it's pigments.

It is not a printing error.

Best wishes.

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1898

21 Aug 2023
11:23:33am
re: Benjamin franklin

@foudutimbre

Thanks for the reverse scan.

It appears to me and it's only a guess (because I don't have the stamp in person), what happened something was spilled on the stamp, I say that because the reverse scan I can see where it soaked into the stamp fibers all the way thru, see arrows in corners. In addition two hinges were used, one appears to be paper (paper hinges were used many, many years ago and difficult to remove sometimes). There is an unknown spot. I have no idea.

Sorry smauggie, I disagree with sun bleaching as it appears on the back of the stamp!

foudutimbre, do you plan to keep this stamp or replace it? If you are going to replace it you might want to do an experiment? Fix it somehow with half the stamp cover with black paper, and expose the stamp to direct sun light (I don't know how long) to see if it looks like one of the corners. If nothing happens soak the other half (that was covered with black paper) with bleach. I bet the bleached part of the stamp will look just like one of the affected corners.

I see in your picture you have a young person, this experiment might be fun with a young person.

Sun light will bleach a stamp.

Good luck with stamps!

More questions, just ask.

1898



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23 Aug 2023
06:29:29am

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re: Benjamin franklin

Thank you very much 1898 for all these explanations, yes I'm going to try the experiment you've presented and I'll get my only boy who's in the photo to take part, he's nearly 6 now and is a bit interested in stamps but quickly tires of them, childhood insouciance, he'd rather play with dismantling and assembling his cars than spend a good while looking at stamps.

On the light of what you tell me, I think more of the action of bleach than sunlight, I had a bad experience in the past with some stamps from Denmark, trying to remove rust stains, I soaked the stamps in water with a few drops of bleach, and the miracle was, the stamps became all white both sides.Angel

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1898

23 Aug 2023
09:17:41am
re: Benjamin franklin

Thank you.

The sticky part of post it notes might help with the experiment (but I don't if any problems with it), to cover 1/2 of stamp.

I've used Hydrogen Peroxide as a way to clean stamps, but with mixed results. I have no idea (sounds like an experiment for me) if it would affect rust.

1898

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25 Aug 2023
03:36:33am
re: Benjamin franklin

I have a stamp that also has a feature like the shown. I had mine expertised for cancel and color. I also placed a note beside the stamp asking the expert what this is. His reply was, a slight shift of the plate to the left. I don´t exactly know what he meant by this.

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1898

25 Aug 2023
10:15:57am
re: Benjamin franklin

@Opa

Your stamp is from Germany!

I think sometimes the entire series of these are referred to the "Germania", but I might have this wrong, I have always been interested in German stamps but only a slight interest, also I don't have a German Stamp Cat.

I have no clue about the affected area on your stamp, but I find it interesting.

Wish I could be more help, sorry.

Good luck

1898

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21 Aug 2023
09:09:44am

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Could you please tell me if this is a printing error or something other :

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Many thanks in advance

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1898

21 Aug 2023
09:33:40am

re: Benjamin franklin

@foudutimbre

Is it possible to make a scan of the reverse side?

It really appears faded, but just in case a scan of the reverse might help.

You might want to wash the stamp first.

I don't think it's a printing error.

It might be a result of some type of chemical reaction, but impossible to determine. I'm sure well meaning SOR members will suggest, but really we will never know for sure what caused it.

Good luck!

1898

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foudutimbre

21 Aug 2023
09:48:51am

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re: Benjamin franklin

@ 1898, herewith

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I found it in an old stampbook with few others

Thanks a lot for your input

Foudutimbre

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smauggie

21 Aug 2023
09:52:13am

re: Benjamin franklin

Hi Foudutimbre,

1898 is on the right track here.

The stamp is suffering from sunbleaching. If stamps are left in direct sunlight (or in this case partial sunlight) for an extended period of time it can bleach the stamp of it's pigments.

It is not a printing error.

Best wishes.

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1898

21 Aug 2023
11:23:33am

re: Benjamin franklin

@foudutimbre

Thanks for the reverse scan.

It appears to me and it's only a guess (because I don't have the stamp in person), what happened something was spilled on the stamp, I say that because the reverse scan I can see where it soaked into the stamp fibers all the way thru, see arrows in corners. In addition two hinges were used, one appears to be paper (paper hinges were used many, many years ago and difficult to remove sometimes). There is an unknown spot. I have no idea.

Sorry smauggie, I disagree with sun bleaching as it appears on the back of the stamp!

foudutimbre, do you plan to keep this stamp or replace it? If you are going to replace it you might want to do an experiment? Fix it somehow with half the stamp cover with black paper, and expose the stamp to direct sun light (I don't know how long) to see if it looks like one of the corners. If nothing happens soak the other half (that was covered with black paper) with bleach. I bet the bleached part of the stamp will look just like one of the affected corners.

I see in your picture you have a young person, this experiment might be fun with a young person.

Sun light will bleach a stamp.

Good luck with stamps!

More questions, just ask.

1898



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23 Aug 2023
06:29:29am

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re: Benjamin franklin

Thank you very much 1898 for all these explanations, yes I'm going to try the experiment you've presented and I'll get my only boy who's in the photo to take part, he's nearly 6 now and is a bit interested in stamps but quickly tires of them, childhood insouciance, he'd rather play with dismantling and assembling his cars than spend a good while looking at stamps.

On the light of what you tell me, I think more of the action of bleach than sunlight, I had a bad experience in the past with some stamps from Denmark, trying to remove rust stains, I soaked the stamps in water with a few drops of bleach, and the miracle was, the stamps became all white both sides.Angel

Foudutimbre

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1898

23 Aug 2023
09:17:41am

re: Benjamin franklin

Thank you.

The sticky part of post it notes might help with the experiment (but I don't if any problems with it), to cover 1/2 of stamp.

I've used Hydrogen Peroxide as a way to clean stamps, but with mixed results. I have no idea (sounds like an experiment for me) if it would affect rust.

1898

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Opa

25 Aug 2023
03:36:33am

re: Benjamin franklin

I have a stamp that also has a feature like the shown. I had mine expertised for cancel and color. I also placed a note beside the stamp asking the expert what this is. His reply was, a slight shift of the plate to the left. I don´t exactly know what he meant by this.

....Image Not Found. ...Image Not Found.

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1898

25 Aug 2023
10:15:57am

re: Benjamin franklin

@Opa

Your stamp is from Germany!

I think sometimes the entire series of these are referred to the "Germania", but I might have this wrong, I have always been interested in German stamps but only a slight interest, also I don't have a German Stamp Cat.

I have no clue about the affected area on your stamp, but I find it interesting.

Wish I could be more help, sorry.

Good luck

1898

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