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United States/Covers & Postmarks : 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

 

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06 Dec 2023
06:32:48am
I have rarely taken much interest in FDCs over the years. But for the last several months, I have been helping my wife build a collection of First Day Covers specially for the 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797. Since the Asheville Club is our local club, her original objective was to collect one of each of the cachets (Planty's 1977 ver. lists around 41 different cachets) and she currently has almost all of these plus a few more that are not listed in Planty's. I am also gifting her a few nice items such as a signed sheet by the first US women to ever do a US stamp design (the 797 sheet) and a signed engraving.

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06 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Don, Very Nice !

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06 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

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06 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Don -

One thing I noticed, you have a label saying "C.S. Anderson Green Cachet" with a black cacheted cover below it. You have a label saying "C.S. Anderson Black Cachet" with a green cacheted cover below it. Easily fixed, I think you need to swap those 2 covers around.

Beautiful collection and the page layout looks great.

Thanks for sharing it with us.

Linus

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06 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Hi Linus,
Hope this finds you and yours healthy and happy in this holiday season.

Thanks for the heads up on the swapped labels. Those scans are a bit older and are only a few of all the pages in her album. Since she has been actively adding covers over the last few months, she has been inserting pages and moving many of the covers around. I just looked and she has these corrected.
Best regards,
Don

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06 Dec 2023
02:47:53pm
re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Don

It may be the basic binders I use (mostly Avery HD), I have to 3 hole punch the Vario pages since the pages do not flip well with the as manufactured slot. They do flip better in Lighthouse Vario G binders but still not fluid. I can tell yours are not since the hole is still a slot and not round.

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06 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

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I buy and use many cases of Vario pages and also use the Vario G binders but not a significant issue of pages that catch. The binders I use utilize the round holes. I do find the Vario binder a bit cheap in that they do not include a mechanism to open and close the rings.

As an engineer yourself, I am sure that you know that the reason that the majority of binder catch pages is because the rings, when closed, are not perfectly aligned. Rings not perfectly aligning when closed occurs when people make the mistake of opening them by pulling the rings themselves. The uneven tension caused by pulling just a single set of rings to open all of them causes them to distort. When I see people yanking on the rings of a binder, I want to hit them upside the head with a wet fish.

But with these cheap Vario G binders, pulling on the rings is the only way to open them. So I am very careful when I open the rings.

Once rings have become distorted, it is VERY hard to re-align them. I made a little tool for 3" rings that help bend them a bit and I sometimes finish the job with a Dremel grinding tool to remove any final mis-alignment.

But you are right, binder rings that catch the pages suck rotten eggs. I have tossed many otherwise good binders into the trash due to this issue.
Don

FYI, I traditionally use a Vario seller on eBay over the years as my primary source, but lately have been buying them off of Amazon as they are cheaper. My eBay seller could not match the Amazon price and free shipping.

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07 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Don I took my calipers and the Vario G ring (4.2mm) is slightly larger than my Avery binders (3.8mm). I do not see much catching (yes the Vario G rings are not the best), The drag before they even get to the teeth section. I do not think the U shape helps either. The ring condition is definitely a variable. The Avery binders have opener mechanisms unlike the Vario albums. I never have issues with paper or card stock (Hagner).

If you lift the pages on a end the sheet twists and the inner hole edges drag. Running the pages through the punch solves everything. Turning is much smoother and accomodates all sorts of variables.

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07 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Al,
Understood. What is the tolerance between the Vario binder rings and the Vario page holes?
Don

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06 Dec 2023
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I have rarely taken much interest in FDCs over the years. But for the last several months, I have been helping my wife build a collection of First Day Covers specially for the 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797. Since the Asheville Club is our local club, her original objective was to collect one of each of the cachets (Planty's 1977 ver. lists around 41 different cachets) and she currently has almost all of these plus a few more that are not listed in Planty's. I am also gifting her a few nice items such as a signed sheet by the first US women to ever do a US stamp design (the 797 sheet) and a signed engraving.

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Don, Very Nice !

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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

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06 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Don -

One thing I noticed, you have a label saying "C.S. Anderson Green Cachet" with a black cacheted cover below it. You have a label saying "C.S. Anderson Black Cachet" with a green cacheted cover below it. Easily fixed, I think you need to swap those 2 covers around.

Beautiful collection and the page layout looks great.

Thanks for sharing it with us.

Linus

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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Hi Linus,
Hope this finds you and yours healthy and happy in this holiday season.

Thanks for the heads up on the swapped labels. Those scans are a bit older and are only a few of all the pages in her album. Since she has been actively adding covers over the last few months, she has been inserting pages and moving many of the covers around. I just looked and she has these corrected.
Best regards,
Don

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06 Dec 2023
02:47:53pm

re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Don

It may be the basic binders I use (mostly Avery HD), I have to 3 hole punch the Vario pages since the pages do not flip well with the as manufactured slot. They do flip better in Lighthouse Vario G binders but still not fluid. I can tell yours are not since the hole is still a slot and not round.

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06 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Hi Al,
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I buy and use many cases of Vario pages and also use the Vario G binders but not a significant issue of pages that catch. The binders I use utilize the round holes. I do find the Vario binder a bit cheap in that they do not include a mechanism to open and close the rings.

As an engineer yourself, I am sure that you know that the reason that the majority of binder catch pages is because the rings, when closed, are not perfectly aligned. Rings not perfectly aligning when closed occurs when people make the mistake of opening them by pulling the rings themselves. The uneven tension caused by pulling just a single set of rings to open all of them causes them to distort. When I see people yanking on the rings of a binder, I want to hit them upside the head with a wet fish.

But with these cheap Vario G binders, pulling on the rings is the only way to open them. So I am very careful when I open the rings.

Once rings have become distorted, it is VERY hard to re-align them. I made a little tool for 3" rings that help bend them a bit and I sometimes finish the job with a Dremel grinding tool to remove any final mis-alignment.

But you are right, binder rings that catch the pages suck rotten eggs. I have tossed many otherwise good binders into the trash due to this issue.
Don

FYI, I traditionally use a Vario seller on eBay over the years as my primary source, but lately have been buying them off of Amazon as they are cheaper. My eBay seller could not match the Amazon price and free shipping.

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Al
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07 Dec 2023
06:45:58am

re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Don I took my calipers and the Vario G ring (4.2mm) is slightly larger than my Avery binders (3.8mm). I do not see much catching (yes the Vario G rings are not the best), The drag before they even get to the teeth section. I do not think the U shape helps either. The ring condition is definitely a variable. The Avery binders have opener mechanisms unlike the Vario albums. I never have issues with paper or card stock (Hagner).

If you lift the pages on a end the sheet twists and the inner hole edges drag. Running the pages through the punch solves everything. Turning is much smoother and accomodates all sorts of variables.

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07 Dec 2023
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re: 1937 S.P.A. Convention 10 Cent Souvenir Sheet #Scott 797 FDCs

Al,
Understood. What is the tolerance between the Vario binder rings and the Vario page holes?
Don

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