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Scott catalog number is 1073, Michel catalog number 1483 IAb (ziegelrot), which bothered me till I found it and put it in the collection.
In general, I think that the Michel catalog caused a lot of problems for people who are trying to make a "reference" collection from a certain period of Yugoslavia!
Although this brand has a relatively low catalog price of 1.00 euro, it is difficult to find it on the free market, so people like me will very easily agree to a price twice as high as the catalog!
Scott catalog don't have listing for this color variety (rose red and brick red), and have it as 1.50 US$ per mint, nh condition.
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I refer to Michel a lot, especially for Europe, because their listings are so much more detailed, but color shades like this, unless I can easily discern them, I pretty much ignore and assume the cheapest variety. I own two Michel color guides and neither one shows a 'ziegelrot'.
Checking online for current value of 1483 I Axb..... online Michel for some reason omits the color? Current value 10 euro MNH, unpriced used.
Much prefer the paper catalogs but imagine the cost of a complete set! I did get one around the year 2000 and got European catalogs around 2010 but I was disappointed as the old catalogs priced NH and Hinged but now it's all NH from 1920 on. I've found more recent PDFs on eBay (but none currently....)
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Michel changed the old names of the colors - in the more recent catalogs they are placed in brackets at the end.
Ziegelrot was replaced by "(dunkel)zinnoberrot bis lebhaftrot"-at least for this stamp.
Impossible to translate into English and especially (for me) to identify these shades from the Michel Color Guide.
If I think it is a valuable nuance, I think the only solution is certification by an expert.
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The most recent Michel PDF I have (2017) still uses ziegelrot. The online is missing the color entirely as mentioned before.
My versions of the color guide are #31 (which has the colors in German, English, and I believe French, and I think is from the 70s or 80s, and #36, which just shows the color names in German. Neither of which looks like yours! Which edition is this? Maybe it's time to get yet another one.
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Jerry, I have Michel Color Guide #38 for 3-4 years
I don't know if something new has appeared.
I found a color guide from 1922:
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Do colour blind philatelists exist???
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Scott catalog number is 1073, Michel catalog number 1483 IAb (ziegelrot), which bothered me till I found it and put it in the collection.
In general, I think that the Michel catalog caused a lot of problems for people who are trying to make a "reference" collection from a certain period of Yugoslavia!
Although this brand has a relatively low catalog price of 1.00 euro, it is difficult to find it on the free market, so people like me will very easily agree to a price twice as high as the catalog!
Scott catalog don't have listing for this color variety (rose red and brick red), and have it as 1.50 US$ per mint, nh condition.
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re: Yugoslavia Scott 1073:
I refer to Michel a lot, especially for Europe, because their listings are so much more detailed, but color shades like this, unless I can easily discern them, I pretty much ignore and assume the cheapest variety. I own two Michel color guides and neither one shows a 'ziegelrot'.
Checking online for current value of 1483 I Axb..... online Michel for some reason omits the color? Current value 10 euro MNH, unpriced used.
Much prefer the paper catalogs but imagine the cost of a complete set! I did get one around the year 2000 and got European catalogs around 2010 but I was disappointed as the old catalogs priced NH and Hinged but now it's all NH from 1920 on. I've found more recent PDFs on eBay (but none currently....)
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10:26:23am
re: Yugoslavia Scott 1073:
Michel changed the old names of the colors - in the more recent catalogs they are placed in brackets at the end.
Ziegelrot was replaced by "(dunkel)zinnoberrot bis lebhaftrot"-at least for this stamp.
Impossible to translate into English and especially (for me) to identify these shades from the Michel Color Guide.
If I think it is a valuable nuance, I think the only solution is certification by an expert.
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re: Yugoslavia Scott 1073:
The most recent Michel PDF I have (2017) still uses ziegelrot. The online is missing the color entirely as mentioned before.
My versions of the color guide are #31 (which has the colors in German, English, and I believe French, and I think is from the 70s or 80s, and #36, which just shows the color names in German. Neither of which looks like yours! Which edition is this? Maybe it's time to get yet another one.
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11:40:47am
re: Yugoslavia Scott 1073:
Jerry, I have Michel Color Guide #38 for 3-4 years
I don't know if something new has appeared.
I found a color guide from 1922:
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31 Mar 2024
11:42:54am
re: Yugoslavia Scott 1073:
Do colour blind philatelists exist???
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