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I wonder if anyone can give me some more information on this postmark cancel from NY 1924.Many thanks.
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The cancel from New York is called a slogan cancel as a slogan or message is contained in the killer part of the cancel. In this case it is reminding people to use the new street and number method of addressing an envelop within the USA.
The second marking is a New York spyglass marking noting that the postcard was underpaid (in this case by 4 US cents). The overdue amount is given in the universal postal currency of French centimes.
The third marking is the UK marking showing how is due in UK pence.
The fourth marking is the cancel on the postage due stamps indicating at which post office they were applied.
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Thanks for that information.
You have answered almost everything that I was looking for.
I'm now specifically interested in exactly what location New York NY 3 is.
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The number 3 is the "number" in the slogan, "Address your mail to street and number." The number is the number of the postal district within a city. Each postal district had it's own post office. Thust items mailed from postal district 3 in New York City, the cancel from that postal district is displayed after the city and state to indicate exactly where the mail originated.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for showing it...interesting piece.
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Again. Great info and thanks.
So, exactly what NY Post Office was this sent from in 1924?
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I think I may have solved it.
I think it would have been the New York City Post Office in Broadway/Manhattan. Built in 1880, demolished in 1939.
Why this post office?
The Postcard is of Manhattan and the only other NY 3 cancel I have seen from 1924 is on a postcard that advertises Capitol Theatre on 51st Street Broadway.
Interestingly this is less than a mile away from Madison Square Station Post Office, which is one of only 3 NY Post offices that have Scott 594s on them.
My postcard is May 1924, which is within the range of April to Oct 1924, it's 11x11 perf, good darker green colour and measures 22.25mm x 19.4mm.
Obviously I don't want to take the stamp off the postcard to check for flat plate offset printing marks, because if it is a Scott 552, the postcard still has some interesting features and a decent value.
I guess the only way to find out is to send it to a stamp certifier. ( I don't mind wasting $40.00)
Any comments?
Any stamp certifier recommendations. Is the APS the only one I should use?
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Here is a link to help you with state Post office. I use this site to help me in my collecting. It's Jim Forte site. https://www.postalhistory.com/State/index.htm
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I wonder if anyone can give me some more information on this postmark cancel from NY 1924.
Many thanks.
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The cancel from New York is called a slogan cancel as a slogan or message is contained in the killer part of the cancel. In this case it is reminding people to use the new street and number method of addressing an envelop within the USA.
The second marking is a New York spyglass marking noting that the postcard was underpaid (in this case by 4 US cents). The overdue amount is given in the universal postal currency of French centimes.
The third marking is the UK marking showing how is due in UK pence.
The fourth marking is the cancel on the postage due stamps indicating at which post office they were applied.
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Thanks for that information.
You have answered almost everything that I was looking for.
I'm now specifically interested in exactly what location New York NY 3 is.
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re: New York Postmark Cancel Id from 1924
The number 3 is the "number" in the slogan, "Address your mail to street and number." The number is the number of the postal district within a city. Each postal district had it's own post office. Thust items mailed from postal district 3 in New York City, the cancel from that postal district is displayed after the city and state to indicate exactly where the mail originated.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for showing it...interesting piece.
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Again. Great info and thanks.
So, exactly what NY Post Office was this sent from in 1924?
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I think I may have solved it.
I think it would have been the New York City Post Office in Broadway/Manhattan. Built in 1880, demolished in 1939.
Why this post office?
The Postcard is of Manhattan and the only other NY 3 cancel I have seen from 1924 is on a postcard that advertises Capitol Theatre on 51st Street Broadway.
Interestingly this is less than a mile away from Madison Square Station Post Office, which is one of only 3 NY Post offices that have Scott 594s on them.
My postcard is May 1924, which is within the range of April to Oct 1924, it's 11x11 perf, good darker green colour and measures 22.25mm x 19.4mm.
Obviously I don't want to take the stamp off the postcard to check for flat plate offset printing marks, because if it is a Scott 552, the postcard still has some interesting features and a decent value.
I guess the only way to find out is to send it to a stamp certifier. ( I don't mind wasting $40.00)
Any comments?
Any stamp certifier recommendations. Is the APS the only one I should use?
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re: New York Postmark Cancel Id from 1924
Here is a link to help you with state Post office. I use this site to help me in my collecting. It's Jim Forte site. https://www.postalhistory.com/State/index.htm
Moderator note: Link fixed.
(Modified by Moderator on 2024-06-18 01:21:58)
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