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This is the text of the letter.
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What I can make out is as follows.
My Dear William, your letter found me ill in bed with a heavy cold. As I should have .......(replied/settled?) at once to thank you for it and ..... and check enclosed for 949.96.
I hope you are having better weather at the ..... than we are having here.......
Edit. Check seems a lot for the time period, maybe it was only 49.96.
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Phil,
Not all Mourning Covers and their contents related to a death. Many have but that is not the rule with these. I have a small collection of these and some relate to a death such as invite to the viewing and thank you for condolences that were sent. There is a good book on this topic, Mourning Covers: The Cultural and Postal History of Letters Edged in Black by Ernest A. Mosher, a major work as to US postal history and the subject matter, 12 + 341 pages.
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Thanks Vince, obviously i do not know too much about them..the few i have seen usually only have a few words of sympathy.
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Sheepshanks, to me it looks like it could $349.96 because the first numeral does not look like the 9 s . Still a large amount for a time when workers could be earning a dollar a day. Thanks for looking .
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What makes this a mourning cover?
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"What makes this a mourning cover?"
The black outline on the envelope and insert
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Keep in mind, one was supposed to remain in mourning for a certain period of time depending on their relationship to the person who passed a way. All correspondance during the time of mourning could sport the mourning colors.
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That cover is from Bath County, VA, a beautiful rural area on the border of WV.
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Another attempt to transcribe the letter:
Warm Springs
August 9th
My dear Willis
Your letter found me ill in bed with a heavy cold — as I should have written at once to thank you for it and such and check enclosed for $249.96. I hope you are having better weather at the Pies than we are having here. We have … (end of page)
Note: It appears (to my eye at least) that the “Pies” is the same word as on the envelope, which is perhaps addressed to Margarette Pies KC, but I have been unable to locate such a place on a map. The sender’s postmark is Warm Springs VA August 9, 1904.
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James, that makes more sense.
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Narragansett Pier RI
$349.96
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"The Mathewson" (Hotel)
https://www.narragansetthistoricalsociet ...
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Thanks, Roy, for your correction to my efforts and for the geography. "Pier" makes far more sense than "Pies"!
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Roy, you agree with my amount...was treasurer in a club once, i hated being responsible.
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Additionally Mourning Covers should/could be used for up to 3 years, with the black strip getting smaller and smaller each year. One of the members of our local stamp club gave a great presentation on w/w covers and it was amazing to see some of the material he had. He has made several presentations in the last couple of years and all were very fascinating as the Morning Cover one.
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Here are a few scans from Ernest A. Mosher's book Mourning Covers, copy right 2003, 341 pages.
These pages cover some of the myths of Mourning Covers and some conclusions the author has about these covers.
I have been collecting Mourning Covers for a few years. I have 200+ in my collection from 15 different countries,most are from The US. My earliest is from 1834 on a Folded Letter Sheet. The most recent is a memorial cover for the Astronauts killed in the tragic accident 21st, February, 1967.
The fourth scan above from page 29 covers some of the uses for these covers. I have examples of each in my collection.
Scans from my collection
Smallest 78mm x 55mm, with enclosure
Largest 230mm x 162mm
Another Large cover 226mm x 128mm, with enclosure showing back flap that tucked into the back side of the cover.
Various sizes of Black Borders
Apollo Memorial Cover
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This mourning cover circa 1909 ...has a fairly long message..i think its in English of my fathers time but i find it hard to read.
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What I can make out is as follows.
My Dear William, your letter found me ill in bed with a heavy cold. As I should have .......(replied/settled?) at once to thank you for it and ..... and check enclosed for 949.96.
I hope you are having better weather at the ..... than we are having here.......
Edit. Check seems a lot for the time period, maybe it was only 49.96.
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Phil,
Not all Mourning Covers and their contents related to a death. Many have but that is not the rule with these. I have a small collection of these and some relate to a death such as invite to the viewing and thank you for condolences that were sent. There is a good book on this topic, Mourning Covers: The Cultural and Postal History of Letters Edged in Black by Ernest A. Mosher, a major work as to US postal history and the subject matter, 12 + 341 pages.
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Thanks Vince, obviously i do not know too much about them..the few i have seen usually only have a few words of sympathy.
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Sheepshanks, to me it looks like it could $349.96 because the first numeral does not look like the 9 s . Still a large amount for a time when workers could be earning a dollar a day. Thanks for looking .
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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
29 Aug 2024
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"What makes this a mourning cover?"
The black outline on the envelope and insert
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Keep in mind, one was supposed to remain in mourning for a certain period of time depending on their relationship to the person who passed a way. All correspondance during the time of mourning could sport the mourning colors.
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That cover is from Bath County, VA, a beautiful rural area on the border of WV.
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Another attempt to transcribe the letter:
Warm Springs
August 9th
My dear Willis
Your letter found me ill in bed with a heavy cold — as I should have written at once to thank you for it and such and check enclosed for $249.96. I hope you are having better weather at the Pies than we are having here. We have … (end of page)
Note: It appears (to my eye at least) that the “Pies” is the same word as on the envelope, which is perhaps addressed to Margarette Pies KC, but I have been unable to locate such a place on a map. The sender’s postmark is Warm Springs VA August 9, 1904.
JTH
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James, that makes more sense.
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BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 500 categories
29 Aug 2024
08:32:47pm
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Narragansett Pier RI
$349.96
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BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 500 categories
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"The Mathewson" (Hotel)
https://www.narragansetthistoricalsociet ...
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Thanks, Roy, for your correction to my efforts and for the geography. "Pier" makes far more sense than "Pies"!
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Roy, you agree with my amount...was treasurer in a club once, i hated being responsible.
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re: Mourning cover or informational ?
Additionally Mourning Covers should/could be used for up to 3 years, with the black strip getting smaller and smaller each year. One of the members of our local stamp club gave a great presentation on w/w covers and it was amazing to see some of the material he had. He has made several presentations in the last couple of years and all were very fascinating as the Morning Cover one.
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re: Mourning cover or informational ?
Here are a few scans from Ernest A. Mosher's book Mourning Covers, copy right 2003, 341 pages.
These pages cover some of the myths of Mourning Covers and some conclusions the author has about these covers.
I have been collecting Mourning Covers for a few years. I have 200+ in my collection from 15 different countries,most are from The US. My earliest is from 1834 on a Folded Letter Sheet. The most recent is a memorial cover for the Astronauts killed in the tragic accident 21st, February, 1967.
The fourth scan above from page 29 covers some of the uses for these covers. I have examples of each in my collection.
Scans from my collection
Smallest 78mm x 55mm, with enclosure
Largest 230mm x 162mm
Another Large cover 226mm x 128mm, with enclosure showing back flap that tucked into the back side of the cover.
Various sizes of Black Borders
Apollo Memorial Cover
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