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Latin America/All : Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

 

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11 Nov 2024
03:29:33pm
Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

Not listed in Scott. Listed in Edifil ( numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 )
Issued 1874 and 1897
This is from a very old Spanish Scott Album, with commentary in Spanish.

Here is a link to a Wiki reference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Libe ...


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I am curious about this old Scott album in Spanish. The album was purchased in the flee market of Havana, Cuba, a very long time ago, and serves to house my Colonial Cuba collection to 1899-1900. It uses the same border as the Scott Specialty border, but is is red brown and not black. I have never seen any references to Scott publications in Spanish.
Anyone with any knowledge on the subject?

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12 Nov 2024
08:29:53pm
re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

rrr

That is really fascinating! I don't see anything in Scott or SG mentioning this.

This reminds me of a recent trip to Cozumel. I was waiting in the lobby of a hotel to meet up with my dive party and saw a few coffee table books. They were all in Spanish, and my ability to read Spanish is quite limited, but I picked up a book on the history of Mexico and I can assure you that their take on what happened at the Alamo is nothing like what you were taught in grammar school!

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12 Nov 2024
10:29:17pm
re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

The two "local" stamps are not from Cuba. Is an issue from Mexico - 1893, here one pic along with other similar emissions.

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13 Nov 2024
11:57:13am
re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

Thanks Rodolfo. You are probably right....The eagle looks very similar.
But I wonder if it could still be Spanish Cuban, copying a Mexican design since it came with a few other Fiscal and local Cuban stamps, when I received them I struggled with these two before! Fiscal without a catalog always has me puzzled.
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13 Nov 2024
05:49:16pm
re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

Hello Rrraphy,

I don't think Cuba was given permission to copy the design since it is the Coat of Arms of Mexico during the time of President Porfirio Diaz. They are not fiscal, they are seals/labels created to seal the back of envelopes. Many were certified mail that during the Dictatorship were opened and then sealed with those labels to avoid problems. Later they were used at the will of the sender to seal their envelopes. In cases of envelopes that arrived damaged, they were put in plastic bags and the label was added, sealing it as well.

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14 Nov 2024
01:13:25am
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Thank you Rodolfo.
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17 Nov 2024
11:58:48am
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Nice cover Rodolfo!

Roy

BTW, these are known here as "Official Seals".


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Retired Consultant APS#186030
11 Nov 2024
03:29:33pm

Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

Not listed in Scott. Listed in Edifil ( numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 )
Issued 1874 and 1897
This is from a very old Spanish Scott Album, with commentary in Spanish.

Here is a link to a Wiki reference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Libe ...


Photos from my album follow:

Image Not Found

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I am curious about this old Scott album in Spanish. The album was purchased in the flee market of Havana, Cuba, a very long time ago, and serves to house my Colonial Cuba collection to 1899-1900. It uses the same border as the Scott Specialty border, but is is red brown and not black. I have never seen any references to Scott publications in Spanish.
Anyone with any knowledge on the subject?

rrr...



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12 Nov 2024
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re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

rrr

That is really fascinating! I don't see anything in Scott or SG mentioning this.

This reminds me of a recent trip to Cozumel. I was waiting in the lobby of a hotel to meet up with my dive party and saw a few coffee table books. They were all in Spanish, and my ability to read Spanish is quite limited, but I picked up a book on the history of Mexico and I can assure you that their take on what happened at the Alamo is nothing like what you were taught in grammar school!

Lars

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12 Nov 2024
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re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

The two "local" stamps are not from Cuba. Is an issue from Mexico - 1893, here one pic along with other similar emissions.

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13 Nov 2024
11:57:13am

re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

Thanks Rodolfo. You are probably right....The eagle looks very similar.
But I wonder if it could still be Spanish Cuban, copying a Mexican design since it came with a few other Fiscal and local Cuban stamps, when I received them I struggled with these two before! Fiscal without a catalog always has me puzzled.
Rrr...

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13 Nov 2024
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re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

Hello Rrraphy,

I don't think Cuba was given permission to copy the design since it is the Coat of Arms of Mexico during the time of President Porfirio Diaz. They are not fiscal, they are seals/labels created to seal the back of envelopes. Many were certified mail that during the Dictatorship were opened and then sealed with those labels to avoid problems. Later they were used at the will of the sender to seal their envelopes. In cases of envelopes that arrived damaged, they were put in plastic bags and the label was added, sealing it as well.

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14 Nov 2024
01:13:25am

re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

Thank you Rodolfo.
rrr...

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11:58:48am

re: Cuba War of Independence. Correo Mambi

Nice cover Rodolfo!

Roy

BTW, these are known here as "Official Seals".


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