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Canada/Other : A question that requires a major expert!!

 

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08 Dec 2024
03:12:36pm
There's a seller on E-Bay who keeps offering a used BC #1 which, according to anything I have read, does not exist. The price is very low so my guess is that it's a fake! Does anyone of you know a BC expert that can shed light on whether this stamp might exist?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/404688508177?_sk ...

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08 Dec 2024
05:19:23pm
re: A question that requires a major expert!!

How about the cancel?

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08 Dec 2024
06:29:26pm
re: A question that requires a major expert!!

That's what I'm curious about! It really shouldn't have one since the stamp was supposedly never released. There should be no cancel what-so-ever. It was also never gummed either. Many experts think it was a proof.
EDIT: IMHO the cancel was faked. Or if not, the stamp is unique and should be worth a lot of $$$$. It should, if the seller really wants to sell the stamp, be certified!! I paid $4000 CD taxes included for my copy of BC #1. That was a lot of money for me to spend but I figured I'd never have another chance. It came from a well respected collector through a well respected auction house so I respect its provenance. It's CV is now close to $20 000 CD so if this stamp is a real used copy, which would be unique, I wouldn't even want to speculate on it's CV! The price being asked makes me very suspicious but if it were certified to be authentic any serious collector would jump at it for that price. This is all IMHO of course!

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08 Dec 2024
11:24:50pm
re: A question that requires a major expert!!

He's listed it as SG1, which doesn't exist, the first listing is SG2. If it IS one of the plate proofs, why deface it and sell it so cheap? My guess is a forgery.

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09 Dec 2024
08:50:01am
re: A question that requires a major expert!!

Me too!
EDIT: Another possibility would be a trimmed #2 but it's margins are way too large for that. I have five copies of #2 because I try to find as many numbered postmarks as I can and #2 seems very popular for that! To the best of my knowledge Jumbos do not exist for early BC stamps.
I've posted this a few times but here's pg1 of my BC collection with the two additions. There is probably no way the used #1 in question could be a trimmed #2.
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11 Dec 2024
01:31:25pm
re: A question that requires a major expert!!

In my post above I mentioned the term "jumbo" with respect to stamps. Just in case someone wasn't sure what they are I'll add this.

"A jumbo in the philatelic universe is a stamp with unusually large margins... the exception rather than the rule.Oct 25, 2014"


You see they quite often in the early Canada small Queen series, I bought a bunch from a seller here that had been trimmed (we both assumed) to imitate the very expensive imperforate stamps for the same series. That's why many imperforate stamps are only priced as pairs! For example I'd really like to get US #315 (usually offered very much overpriced), an imperforate Lincoln, but can't afford a pair and don't trust many of the singles on offer. There are also quite a few Newfoundland stamps that exist imperforate but should only be bought as pairs. As the person in the cop show said, "be careful out there!".
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08 Dec 2024
03:12:36pm

There's a seller on E-Bay who keeps offering a used BC #1 which, according to anything I have read, does not exist. The price is very low so my guess is that it's a fake! Does anyone of you know a BC expert that can shed light on whether this stamp might exist?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/404688508177?_sk ...

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08 Dec 2024
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re: A question that requires a major expert!!

How about the cancel?

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re: A question that requires a major expert!!

That's what I'm curious about! It really shouldn't have one since the stamp was supposedly never released. There should be no cancel what-so-ever. It was also never gummed either. Many experts think it was a proof.
EDIT: IMHO the cancel was faked. Or if not, the stamp is unique and should be worth a lot of $$$$. It should, if the seller really wants to sell the stamp, be certified!! I paid $4000 CD taxes included for my copy of BC #1. That was a lot of money for me to spend but I figured I'd never have another chance. It came from a well respected collector through a well respected auction house so I respect its provenance. It's CV is now close to $20 000 CD so if this stamp is a real used copy, which would be unique, I wouldn't even want to speculate on it's CV! The price being asked makes me very suspicious but if it were certified to be authentic any serious collector would jump at it for that price. This is all IMHO of course!

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08 Dec 2024
11:24:50pm

re: A question that requires a major expert!!

He's listed it as SG1, which doesn't exist, the first listing is SG2. If it IS one of the plate proofs, why deface it and sell it so cheap? My guess is a forgery.

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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
09 Dec 2024
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re: A question that requires a major expert!!

Me too!
EDIT: Another possibility would be a trimmed #2 but it's margins are way too large for that. I have five copies of #2 because I try to find as many numbered postmarks as I can and #2 seems very popular for that! To the best of my knowledge Jumbos do not exist for early BC stamps.
I've posted this a few times but here's pg1 of my BC collection with the two additions. There is probably no way the used #1 in question could be a trimmed #2.
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11 Dec 2024
01:31:25pm

re: A question that requires a major expert!!

In my post above I mentioned the term "jumbo" with respect to stamps. Just in case someone wasn't sure what they are I'll add this.

"A jumbo in the philatelic universe is a stamp with unusually large margins... the exception rather than the rule.Oct 25, 2014"


You see they quite often in the early Canada small Queen series, I bought a bunch from a seller here that had been trimmed (we both assumed) to imitate the very expensive imperforate stamps for the same series. That's why many imperforate stamps are only priced as pairs! For example I'd really like to get US #315 (usually offered very much overpriced), an imperforate Lincoln, but can't afford a pair and don't trust many of the singles on offer. There are also quite a few Newfoundland stamps that exist imperforate but should only be bought as pairs. As the person in the cop show said, "be careful out there!".
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