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It would help if you would at least hint at why it is not an R217 - something like "look carefully at the right ribbon". I've been doing this since 1985 so I know what to look for - many don't. The point is to educate people so they know as much as you do. I always tried to hire people smarter than I was as well. It pays off in the long run. Knowlegge is meant to be shared.
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I see your point.
Look carefully at both ribbons.
I would think someone who is looking for R217, especially a block of six would know what to look for.
I've been doing this since 1958. Perhaps others will find my way outdated " I look before i leap".
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So, allow me to educate on how to educate
Do not say that this is not X. That only leaves 25 other options, assuming the universe is letters of the alphabet.
Instead, as Henry suggests, point out where one might look.
But, I'll take it one better. Include an image of the real R217 and the imposter. Point to the place(s) where one might see tell tale differences that aid in ID'g both the real and the imposter. I know you're not particularly good with technology, so you'll need to spend more time describing things (kinda like I'm doing right now).
We've had this conversation before, here and in private, and I'm hoping these suggestions take in the near future.
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I'm off to an appointment.
When I return I'll try posting it again.
I don't remember this "We've had this conversation before, here and in private, and I'm hoping these suggestions take in the near future." I'm sure you are correct I just don't recall it! I don't see anything dated 7 Jan 2025 to this effect!
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It really is quite amazing, if you look up R217 up on E-Bay it seems like more are wrong than are right. You really have to know what you're doing because it seems like most of the sellers there don't. But then I think many of the sellers are not philatelists so you really have to cut them a bit of slack. I would be very hesitant to use a seller I wasn't familiar with unless I tried some very cheap items first. I would never trust an unknown seller to get things like watermarks right especially if they don't take returns. Just my opinion!!!
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You said, but I need to understand correctly "Do not say that this is not X.", what do you mean??
You also said "That only leaves 25 other options, assuming the universe is letters of the alphabet." there are only two other stamps in the "R" class that I know of and both are not inscribed! Please educate me what the other 23 are, I have no idea about these!
Who is Henry? I looked thru all the posting and there is no Henry any where?
As requested I've included an image of a real R217 and arrows! I do not think this is really necessary, all this is in the cat. What good is the cat. if the collector does no research in the cat. I don't think I should have to do the collectors responsibilty in pointing out what is in the Cat.!
Everything in my OP is correct!
Please do not take my response as a negative, it's not meant that way!
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"Who is Henry? I looked thru all the posting and there is no Henry any where?"
Many of us prefer to use first names. Rather than saying @Webpaper we will use Henry. Most of the people here will never actually meet and we may not get along if we did. But we use first names because it seems a bit more friendly. I have only physically met two members here, Cheryl and David, and probably will not meet any more! But you never know!
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David (I am referring to 1898 and 1899)
Back when you were 1898, I wrote you, on these pages and, earlier in private conversations, about how to do these "misidentified" posts. Pity, I wasted my time as you neither remember nor follow those suggestions.
The "henry" mystery was solved by Joe, who goes by the nom de timbre "Harvey".
The X was used as an example, where X is an undefined term. I then defined it as one of 26 possibilities in the alphabet. Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you, but I guess it shows how essential it is to show your intended audience precisely what one is discussing; i tried and failed, even though most of us here know the alphabet.
AMSD (four more of those possible examples, but with a different meaning altogether)
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On Ebay today I noticed a lot identified and described as R217, it is not R217 block of six.
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It would help if you would at least hint at why it is not an R217 - something like "look carefully at the right ribbon". I've been doing this since 1985 so I know what to look for - many don't. The point is to educate people so they know as much as you do. I always tried to hire people smarter than I was as well. It pays off in the long run. Knowlegge is meant to be shared.
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I see your point.
Look carefully at both ribbons.
I would think someone who is looking for R217, especially a block of six would know what to look for.
I've been doing this since 1958. Perhaps others will find my way outdated " I look before i leap".
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So, allow me to educate on how to educate
Do not say that this is not X. That only leaves 25 other options, assuming the universe is letters of the alphabet.
Instead, as Henry suggests, point out where one might look.
But, I'll take it one better. Include an image of the real R217 and the imposter. Point to the place(s) where one might see tell tale differences that aid in ID'g both the real and the imposter. I know you're not particularly good with technology, so you'll need to spend more time describing things (kinda like I'm doing right now).
We've had this conversation before, here and in private, and I'm hoping these suggestions take in the near future.
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I'm off to an appointment.
When I return I'll try posting it again.
I don't remember this "We've had this conversation before, here and in private, and I'm hoping these suggestions take in the near future." I'm sure you are correct I just don't recall it! I don't see anything dated 7 Jan 2025 to this effect!
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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
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re: Not as Described and Misidentified
It really is quite amazing, if you look up R217 up on E-Bay it seems like more are wrong than are right. You really have to know what you're doing because it seems like most of the sellers there don't. But then I think many of the sellers are not philatelists so you really have to cut them a bit of slack. I would be very hesitant to use a seller I wasn't familiar with unless I tried some very cheap items first. I would never trust an unknown seller to get things like watermarks right especially if they don't take returns. Just my opinion!!!
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@amsd
You said, but I need to understand correctly "Do not say that this is not X.", what do you mean??
You also said "That only leaves 25 other options, assuming the universe is letters of the alphabet." there are only two other stamps in the "R" class that I know of and both are not inscribed! Please educate me what the other 23 are, I have no idea about these!
Who is Henry? I looked thru all the posting and there is no Henry any where?
As requested I've included an image of a real R217 and arrows! I do not think this is really necessary, all this is in the cat. What good is the cat. if the collector does no research in the cat. I don't think I should have to do the collectors responsibilty in pointing out what is in the Cat.!
Everything in my OP is correct!
Please do not take my response as a negative, it's not meant that way!
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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
08 Jan 2025
08:56:00am
re: Not as Described and Misidentified
"Who is Henry? I looked thru all the posting and there is no Henry any where?"
Many of us prefer to use first names. Rather than saying @Webpaper we will use Henry. Most of the people here will never actually meet and we may not get along if we did. But we use first names because it seems a bit more friendly. I have only physically met two members here, Cheryl and David, and probably will not meet any more! But you never know!
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David (I am referring to 1898 and 1899)
Back when you were 1898, I wrote you, on these pages and, earlier in private conversations, about how to do these "misidentified" posts. Pity, I wasted my time as you neither remember nor follow those suggestions.
The "henry" mystery was solved by Joe, who goes by the nom de timbre "Harvey".
The X was used as an example, where X is an undefined term. I then defined it as one of 26 possibilities in the alphabet. Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you, but I guess it shows how essential it is to show your intended audience precisely what one is discussing; i tried and failed, even though most of us here know the alphabet.
AMSD (four more of those possible examples, but with a different meaning altogether)
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