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United States/BOB & Other : Scott Calls this a Surcharged but it's not

 

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27 Jan 2025
10:30:33pm
Scott Cat. has always called this a surcharge but it's really an overprint!

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This overprint is a large "1" sort of in the middle.

Has anyone ever noticed this error in the Scott Cat.?

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28 Jan 2025
12:47:42am
re: Scott Calls this a Surcharged but it's not

Well, this is a dicey topic.

Williams' Fundamentals of Philately (Leon Williams, APS, 1990), defines a surcharge as an overprint that alters or confirms the face value of a stamp.

Usually, a surcharge is thought of as increasing the value. Sometimes a surcharge decreases the value. Very occasionally, it merely confirms the value.

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28 Jan 2025
01:20:22am
re: Scott Calls this a Surcharged but it's not

Very interesting discussion.

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28 Jan 2025
12:04:43pm
re: Scott Calls this a Surcharged but it's not

What you have to remember that unless you are a bit of a stamp expert the two terms "surcharge" and "overprint" might be almost interchangeable. We have to give some of these sellers a bit of leeway and excuse them if they are not as perfect as we would like! Another example would be precancel, silent precancel and fancy cancel! I've been a stamp collector for many years and some of these terms confuse me a bit. For example, why is the NY String of Pearls considered to be a silent precancel and not a fancy cancel? Is it because of the process to create it or what it is used for? A lot of sellers are not experts and we have to keep that in mind! Again all IMHO!

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28 Jan 2025
12:19:43pm
re: Scott Calls this a Surcharged but it's not

I agree with your posting.

That's one of the reasons I pointed it out, to stamp collectors.

If dealers make a mistake in description, at least the stamp collector knows.

This isn't really important I suppose, a minor error, perhaps in time dealers will become more accurate with descriptions in future.


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27 Jan 2025
10:30:33pm

Scott Cat. has always called this a surcharge but it's really an overprint!

See scan

This overprint is a large "1" sort of in the middle.

Has anyone ever noticed this error in the Scott Cat.?

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28 Jan 2025
12:47:42am

re: Scott Calls this a Surcharged but it's not

Well, this is a dicey topic.

Williams' Fundamentals of Philately (Leon Williams, APS, 1990), defines a surcharge as an overprint that alters or confirms the face value of a stamp.

Usually, a surcharge is thought of as increasing the value. Sometimes a surcharge decreases the value. Very occasionally, it merely confirms the value.

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28 Jan 2025
01:20:22am

re: Scott Calls this a Surcharged but it's not

Very interesting discussion.

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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
28 Jan 2025
12:04:43pm

re: Scott Calls this a Surcharged but it's not

What you have to remember that unless you are a bit of a stamp expert the two terms "surcharge" and "overprint" might be almost interchangeable. We have to give some of these sellers a bit of leeway and excuse them if they are not as perfect as we would like! Another example would be precancel, silent precancel and fancy cancel! I've been a stamp collector for many years and some of these terms confuse me a bit. For example, why is the NY String of Pearls considered to be a silent precancel and not a fancy cancel? Is it because of the process to create it or what it is used for? A lot of sellers are not experts and we have to keep that in mind! Again all IMHO!

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28 Jan 2025
12:19:43pm

re: Scott Calls this a Surcharged but it's not

I agree with your posting.

That's one of the reasons I pointed it out, to stamp collectors.

If dealers make a mistake in description, at least the stamp collector knows.

This isn't really important I suppose, a minor error, perhaps in time dealers will become more accurate with descriptions in future.


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