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Do you mean stamps like these?
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Yes. I’ve got one like the one on the far right.
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Deutsche Post in Germany have introduced QR codes in stamps in 2021, and now all of their new stamps bear such a code. Like it or not, it is their standard now. It is supposed to serve tracking purposes and to avoid postage fraud, but requires the code to be scanned in the distribution offices (obviously). There is also some kind of app that allows to find out whether and when such a stamp was used.
However, older Euro-denominated stamps remain valid.
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Interesting. They would move through the machinery faster with a code but how easy are they to counterfeit?
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Each code is unique, and can only be used once. Until the technology is sufficiently widespread to check them all, there is (or should be) always the postmark.
It must be said that errors have occurred with these codes, but very few.
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I don’t have any of these kinds of stamps but it is an interesting question about how to display them.
What happens when the code is scanned? Does it bring up information of some kind? Could that info be printed out and used in an album along with the stamps?
How many countries issue these things with QR codes?
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I am not overly interested in QR coded stamps, in fact I don't collect newer German stamps any more, but here's what little else I know:
Provided you've got the correct app (which AFAIK can be obtained from Deutsche Post), you can in theory find out where the stamp was used and when, at least for as long as the information is stored (I guess for about as long as they accept complaints, there is a deadline, but don't ask me how long it is).
Other than Germany, I know that the UK and France have issued stamps with QR codes, but until now only definitives.
Martin
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Thanks Martin. Wonder if those who collect these stamps with QR codes are printing out or recording that info to display with the stamps.
So it’s a built in postmark? Is that usage data generated when the stamp is sold or when it moves through the postage system?
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The UK ones can be read with your 'phone app bar code reader. They contain details of the individual stamps print dates, value, plate position and various other codes. This article shows a couple of Xmas stamps that have printing errors. It also breaks down the code.
https://blog.norphil.co.uk/search/label/ ...
There are a number of useful articles on the Norvic website including a new book, regarding the codes to date, issued by the Deegam folks.
There are many fakes on the market, but each booklet or sheet shows the same code for all the stamps thereon, difficult to tell a lot of them from the real stamps.
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Just to add this link to a older article here.
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...
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" Is that usage data generated when the stamp is sold or when it moves through the postage system?"
Basically, the latter. Some information, of course, is printed in the code, similar to the British stamps, but the actual tracking data are generated when the stamp is scanned in the sorting office after mail collection, and maybe more while it is on the way.
Actually, the idea is to have a "virtual postmark". But not all such stamps are scanned yet, in particular not on bulky items and (probably) in mixed frankings.
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Could these be considered a precancel or not?
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It appears that counterfeits are as big a problem with these QR coded stamps as with US stamps.
Does anyone collect the QR stamps? Do you look scan the codes and record the information or just put the stamps in an album?
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Just as a thought, or possibly ramblings of a fool, as each code is different would that mean you could have pages of the same stamp but consider them all different. After all we consider a printing fault a different stamp.
And no I am not collecting them in this manner. But each stamp could be said to be uniquely different.
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I'm trying to get my head around these QR codes and stamps. A poster said "It appears that counterfeits are as big a problem with these QR coded stamps as with US stamps.", what is being counterfed and stamp or the QR codes or both?
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The comment about the counterfeiting was made after reading through the information on the first link from an earlier post by sheepshanks. It mentioned that the QR codes are all the same for all the stamps on one pane for counterfeits. Not sure if there are differences in the stamp design, etc. It's not like there is a comprehensive catalog for counterfeits as the counterfeiting methods have improved to the point where it is getting extremely difficult to tell real from fake for some issues (for the USA anyway, don't have any examples from other countries).
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I’ve had a few stamps with QR codes starting to show up on my US stamps. Does anyone collect these ones? How do you display them? Store them?
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Do you mean stamps like these?
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Yes. I’ve got one like the one on the far right.
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
Deutsche Post in Germany have introduced QR codes in stamps in 2021, and now all of their new stamps bear such a code. Like it or not, it is their standard now. It is supposed to serve tracking purposes and to avoid postage fraud, but requires the code to be scanned in the distribution offices (obviously). There is also some kind of app that allows to find out whether and when such a stamp was used.
However, older Euro-denominated stamps remain valid.
Martin
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
Interesting. They would move through the machinery faster with a code but how easy are they to counterfeit?
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
Each code is unique, and can only be used once. Until the technology is sufficiently widespread to check them all, there is (or should be) always the postmark.
It must be said that errors have occurred with these codes, but very few.
Martin
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
I don’t have any of these kinds of stamps but it is an interesting question about how to display them.
What happens when the code is scanned? Does it bring up information of some kind? Could that info be printed out and used in an album along with the stamps?
How many countries issue these things with QR codes?
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
I am not overly interested in QR coded stamps, in fact I don't collect newer German stamps any more, but here's what little else I know:
Provided you've got the correct app (which AFAIK can be obtained from Deutsche Post), you can in theory find out where the stamp was used and when, at least for as long as the information is stored (I guess for about as long as they accept complaints, there is a deadline, but don't ask me how long it is).
Other than Germany, I know that the UK and France have issued stamps with QR codes, but until now only definitives.
Martin
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
Thanks Martin. Wonder if those who collect these stamps with QR codes are printing out or recording that info to display with the stamps.
So it’s a built in postmark? Is that usage data generated when the stamp is sold or when it moves through the postage system?
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
The UK ones can be read with your 'phone app bar code reader. They contain details of the individual stamps print dates, value, plate position and various other codes. This article shows a couple of Xmas stamps that have printing errors. It also breaks down the code.
https://blog.norphil.co.uk/search/label/ ...
There are a number of useful articles on the Norvic website including a new book, regarding the codes to date, issued by the Deegam folks.
There are many fakes on the market, but each booklet or sheet shows the same code for all the stamps thereon, difficult to tell a lot of them from the real stamps.
Edit
Just to add this link to a older article here.
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
" Is that usage data generated when the stamp is sold or when it moves through the postage system?"
Basically, the latter. Some information, of course, is printed in the code, similar to the British stamps, but the actual tracking data are generated when the stamp is scanned in the sorting office after mail collection, and maybe more while it is on the way.
Actually, the idea is to have a "virtual postmark". But not all such stamps are scanned yet, in particular not on bulky items and (probably) in mixed frankings.
Martin
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
Could these be considered a precancel or not?
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
It appears that counterfeits are as big a problem with these QR coded stamps as with US stamps.
Does anyone collect the QR stamps? Do you look scan the codes and record the information or just put the stamps in an album?
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
Just as a thought, or possibly ramblings of a fool, as each code is different would that mean you could have pages of the same stamp but consider them all different. After all we consider a printing fault a different stamp.
And no I am not collecting them in this manner. But each stamp could be said to be uniquely different.
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
I'm trying to get my head around these QR codes and stamps. A poster said "It appears that counterfeits are as big a problem with these QR coded stamps as with US stamps.", what is being counterfed and stamp or the QR codes or both?
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re: Stamps with QR codes?
The comment about the counterfeiting was made after reading through the information on the first link from an earlier post by sheepshanks. It mentioned that the QR codes are all the same for all the stamps on one pane for counterfeits. Not sure if there are differences in the stamp design, etc. It's not like there is a comprehensive catalog for counterfeits as the counterfeiting methods have improved to the point where it is getting extremely difficult to tell real from fake for some issues (for the USA anyway, don't have any examples from other countries).
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