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Fatherauld

27 Dec 2009
10:22:59pm
Hi Everyone,
The thumbnail enhancements are implemented. I think I got all the things that we were talking about.

Things to note:
1. There is a setting in your membership profile called "Allow Thumbnails in Auction Lists?". This has to be set to "Yes" for you to see the thumbnails in the auction lists.

2. Also in your membership profile, if you set the "Type of Internet Connection?" setting to "Slow", when you look at an auction lot, you will only see the thumbnail image to start with. If you then want to see the larger image, click on the thumbnail image or the link that is underneath it. This should help our friends on dialup connections.

3. I had a few problems pulling the thumbnails from the images on the photo hosting sites. Some of them came down too fast and tried to grab the thumbnail image name from the previous picture. I think I have caught them all, but if you find one of your lots has the wrong thumbnail, just go in the the Edit/View function under the "Sellers" menu dropdown, select the problem lot and press the submit button at the bottom. You don't have to change anything. The program will fix it.

4. I found that there are a few auction lots that don't have the picture set up correctly, so the thumbnail couldn't be created. When you were copying the image link from the host site you accidentally copied the wrong one and pasted it into your auction lot. Please remember, when referencing an image on a picture hosting site, the picture must start with "HTTP://.. etc".

Please let me know if you find any problems. Have fun with the thumbnails. I think they look really good and will be very helpful.

Regards ... Tim.
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28 Dec 2009
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Tim I noticed if there is more than one picture with a listing the thumbnail only shows one of them. Is this the way thumbnails work?

Thanks for the terrific enhancement to our auction program :-)

Liz

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
06:20:02am
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Liz,
Yes, I chose to put only one of the images in the lists as a thumbnail. Otherwise it makes the list too long.

Regards ... Tim.

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
07:57:26am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Bob,
Does the thumbnail in the Auction Detail screen speed up your display and make is more usable for you on the dialup connection?

Regards ... Tim

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28 Dec 2009
08:10:40am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,
On short and medium size lists the thumbnails load faster than one can scroll down to look at the entries. On longer lists, such as the "Ending in 24 Hours" section, I had to pause to let some of the thumbnails load. Even with this slight delay, however, scanning down to review the offerings has been greatly enhanced, and made most enjoyable, by the addition of the thumbnails.

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28 Dec 2009
08:11:04am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,

When I select fast connection and set thumbnails to yes and click submit, it doesn't seem to take. When I leave the member update page and come back those fields are set back to their initial settings.

Thanks,
Bob

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
08:19:34am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Bob,
Try again, just make sure that you press the "Submit" button at the bottom of the screen. The changes do not take effect until the "Submit" button is pressed.

Regards ... Tim.

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28 Dec 2009
08:22:32am
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I'm definitely hitting the submit button. I tried modifying other fields and I am still having the same problem. Whatever I change does not save.

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28 Dec 2009
08:22:33am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Bob (Woodstock),
When you click on one of the auction lots (or the thumbnail) and go into the detail/bidding screen, does it load faster with the thumbnail being displayed rather than the full sized image?

Regards ... Tim.

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28 Dec 2009
08:32:50am
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I also see that you made the change to show the minimum bid on the search function instead of zero. Amazing!!!

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28 Dec 2009
09:08:09am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim lad. What a great enhancement. Now if you can only recapture my lost youth and good looks.
Any chance mate.
Tim2.

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
09:39:44am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,
Your beautiful granddaughter must have got her good looks from somewhere, so there is still hope for you. :-)

Regards ... Tim.

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
09:44:53am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

One more small enhancement. If you have logged in on your current IP address previously, the system will remember you, lookup your Thumbnail setting in your membership profile, and will display the thumbnails in the lists accordingly. This will work well for people on a high speed, broadband connection, because your IP address is fairly constant. It won't work as well for people on a dialup because you get a new IP address each time you dial up.

Regards ... Tim.

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Harley

28 Dec 2009
10:58:18am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Another documented miracle,,Guess bobstamnp is right,,Tim is headed for Sainthood.
Thank you Tim,,
I feel like I've got high speed internet.

TOM

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28 Dec 2009
11:32:24am
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,
Although I have very high speed Internet I prefer to view the lots in the auction without thumbnails because I only open that which I'm interested on bidding, however you're expertize in programming for Stamporama is a real credit to you and your skill. All our members should be thankful for all your work. No sainthood perhaps but definitely an award of gratitude. I'm very glad the minimum bid is back also. Now if you can just show me how to screen undesirables so the club is 100% safe.
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28 Dec 2009
12:23:41pm
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

For me, Perry, having thumbnail images makes it much easier to decide to open this or that lot. A good example is in the current list of lots closing in 24 hours. There are three Cuba lots offered, with no written description. I'd have to open all three to see if any of them fit within my narrow range of interest. Thumbnails let me see in an instant whether the lots have any interest for me.

I suppose that for worldwide collectors of both mint and used stamps and everything else, the images aren't so useful, because they will open every lot anyway.

Fortunately, Saint Timothy has given us the option of using thumbnails or not.

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28 Dec 2009
12:29:43pm
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,

In answer to your question, the detail/bidding screen loads up super fast by having the thumbnail picture there instead of the full picture.

Just wondering...at some time in the future would it be possible to have an automatic sign-in, much like is possible with many sites such as MYPhilately.com, ebay, etc.? This capability would eliminate the necessity of dialup members having to login in order to see the thumbnails.

Thanks again.

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28 Dec 2009
12:38:13pm
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,
Just listed a few covers and they have come out huge. Take a look mate. Any ideas why. Doesn't bother me so much except people will have to use the slide bar to get at the other parts of the scan. I'm scanning at 150 dpi and each scan is approx 100kb.
Cheers Tim2

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
12:48:13pm
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Bobstamp,
Do you have any suggestions for Greenmouse on his scanning issue?

Regards ... Tim.

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28 Dec 2009
12:52:58pm
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim2,

Scanning is a black art, but I'll try.

Covers I would scan at 72dpi and 150% of actual size for a #8 cover. (150dpi is overkill because displays are limited to 96dpi at best, and often only 72dpi, or so I am told.)

If you check the physical dimensions of the image after it's scanned, you can see how large it will appear on displays.

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28 Dec 2009
01:00:06pm
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

I agree with Bob's rule however after scanning you could reduce the size of the image to no larger an image than 400dpi in width, in medium quality. This will fit all screens and load quickly. Every Microsoft loaded system has this capability. Perry

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28 Dec 2009
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Greenmouse,
Here is an example of one of your images in the auction reduced to fit ... 400dpi width (medium ) ... of course you could go to 600 dpi if desired.
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Fatherauld

29 Dec 2009
07:32:36pm
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

I just noticed that wfeike has 3 lots listed that don't have thumbnails: Switzerland 244, 245 & 246. I was thinking today that I had missed changing the Relist program to handle the new thumbnail process, and unfortunately Bill found the problem before I could fix it tonight. Sorry about that Bill. The Relist program is now fixed so that it will hand the thumbnails when relisting a closed lot. Please let me know if you find an issues with it.

Regards ... Tim.

Bill, if you want to fix the thumbnails on those three lots, just run them through the Auction Edit program and it will fix the problem for you. You don't have to change anything, just open then up in the edit program and press the submit button.

Tim.

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29 Dec 2009
08:27:42pm
re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

This is why we went from 50 bids at one time to over 400 bids at time!
I see you growing to the size of Ebay in the stamp dept.
More the sellers the better!!!
I am happy to be one of the first members.

Thank You for the prevledge(spilling) of having this great service!

Jerry

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29 Dec 2009
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I ment from 50 lots at one time to over 400 lots at time!

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29 Dec 2009
08:50:34pm
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Thanks Jerry. We have a great club together.

Regards ... Tim.

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12 May 2010
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Tim,

I just listed 3 lots and no thumbnails are showing up. Can you let me know if I have to further reduce the image size.

Many thanks,

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Fatherauld

12 May 2010
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Hi Alyn,
You shouldn't have to reduce the image size. I'll look into it tonight for you.

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12 May 2010
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Tim,

I Just figured it out, I need to add the full URL to the image and it worked. Many thanks.

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Fatherauld

27 Dec 2009
10:22:59pm

Hi Everyone,
The thumbnail enhancements are implemented. I think I got all the things that we were talking about.

Things to note:
1. There is a setting in your membership profile called "Allow Thumbnails in Auction Lists?". This has to be set to "Yes" for you to see the thumbnails in the auction lists.

2. Also in your membership profile, if you set the "Type of Internet Connection?" setting to "Slow", when you look at an auction lot, you will only see the thumbnail image to start with. If you then want to see the larger image, click on the thumbnail image or the link that is underneath it. This should help our friends on dialup connections.

3. I had a few problems pulling the thumbnails from the images on the photo hosting sites. Some of them came down too fast and tried to grab the thumbnail image name from the previous picture. I think I have caught them all, but if you find one of your lots has the wrong thumbnail, just go in the the Edit/View function under the "Sellers" menu dropdown, select the problem lot and press the submit button at the bottom. You don't have to change anything. The program will fix it.

4. I found that there are a few auction lots that don't have the picture set up correctly, so the thumbnail couldn't be created. When you were copying the image link from the host site you accidentally copied the wrong one and pasted it into your auction lot. Please remember, when referencing an image on a picture hosting site, the picture must start with "HTTP://.. etc".

Please let me know if you find any problems. Have fun with the thumbnails. I think they look really good and will be very helpful.

Regards ... Tim.

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28 Dec 2009
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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim I noticed if there is more than one picture with a listing the thumbnail only shows one of them. Is this the way thumbnails work?

Thanks for the terrific enhancement to our auction program :-)

Liz

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
06:20:02am

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Liz,
Yes, I chose to put only one of the images in the lists as a thumbnail. Otherwise it makes the list too long.

Regards ... Tim.

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
07:57:26am

re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Bob,
Does the thumbnail in the Auction Detail screen speed up your display and make is more usable for you on the dialup connection?

Regards ... Tim

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28 Dec 2009
08:10:40am

re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,
On short and medium size lists the thumbnails load faster than one can scroll down to look at the entries. On longer lists, such as the "Ending in 24 Hours" section, I had to pause to let some of the thumbnails load. Even with this slight delay, however, scanning down to review the offerings has been greatly enhanced, and made most enjoyable, by the addition of the thumbnails.

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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,

When I select fast connection and set thumbnails to yes and click submit, it doesn't seem to take. When I leave the member update page and come back those fields are set back to their initial settings.

Thanks,
Bob

(Message edited by parkinlot on December 28, 2009)

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
08:19:34am

re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Bob,
Try again, just make sure that you press the "Submit" button at the bottom of the screen. The changes do not take effect until the "Submit" button is pressed.

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I'm definitely hitting the submit button. I tried modifying other fields and I am still having the same problem. Whatever I change does not save.

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28 Dec 2009
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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Bob (Woodstock),
When you click on one of the auction lots (or the thumbnail) and go into the detail/bidding screen, does it load faster with the thumbnail being displayed rather than the full sized image?

Regards ... Tim.

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I also see that you made the change to show the minimum bid on the search function instead of zero. Amazing!!!

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28 Dec 2009
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Tim lad. What a great enhancement. Now if you can only recapture my lost youth and good looks.
Any chance mate.
Tim2.

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
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Tim,
Your beautiful granddaughter must have got her good looks from somewhere, so there is still hope for you. :-)

Regards ... Tim.

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

One more small enhancement. If you have logged in on your current IP address previously, the system will remember you, lookup your Thumbnail setting in your membership profile, and will display the thumbnails in the lists accordingly. This will work well for people on a high speed, broadband connection, because your IP address is fairly constant. It won't work as well for people on a dialup because you get a new IP address each time you dial up.

Regards ... Tim.

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28 Dec 2009
10:58:18am

re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Another documented miracle,,Guess bobstamnp is right,,Tim is headed for Sainthood.
Thank you Tim,,
I feel like I've got high speed internet.

TOM

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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,
Although I have very high speed Internet I prefer to view the lots in the auction without thumbnails because I only open that which I'm interested on bidding, however you're expertize in programming for Stamporama is a real credit to you and your skill. All our members should be thankful for all your work. No sainthood perhaps but definitely an award of gratitude. I'm very glad the minimum bid is back also. Now if you can just show me how to screen undesirables so the club is 100% safe.
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28 Dec 2009
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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

For me, Perry, having thumbnail images makes it much easier to decide to open this or that lot. A good example is in the current list of lots closing in 24 hours. There are three Cuba lots offered, with no written description. I'd have to open all three to see if any of them fit within my narrow range of interest. Thumbnails let me see in an instant whether the lots have any interest for me.

I suppose that for worldwide collectors of both mint and used stamps and everything else, the images aren't so useful, because they will open every lot anyway.

Fortunately, Saint Timothy has given us the option of using thumbnails or not.

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28 Dec 2009
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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,

In answer to your question, the detail/bidding screen loads up super fast by having the thumbnail picture there instead of the full picture.

Just wondering...at some time in the future would it be possible to have an automatic sign-in, much like is possible with many sites such as MYPhilately.com, ebay, etc.? This capability would eliminate the necessity of dialup members having to login in order to see the thumbnails.

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28 Dec 2009
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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim,
Just listed a few covers and they have come out huge. Take a look mate. Any ideas why. Doesn't bother me so much except people will have to use the slide bar to get at the other parts of the scan. I'm scanning at 150 dpi and each scan is approx 100kb.
Cheers Tim2

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Fatherauld

28 Dec 2009
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Bobstamp,
Do you have any suggestions for Greenmouse on his scanning issue?

Regards ... Tim.

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28 Dec 2009
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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

Tim2,

Scanning is a black art, but I'll try.

Covers I would scan at 72dpi and 150% of actual size for a #8 cover. (150dpi is overkill because displays are limited to 96dpi at best, and often only 72dpi, or so I am told.)

If you check the physical dimensions of the image after it's scanned, you can see how large it will appear on displays.

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28 Dec 2009
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re: Thumbnails from seller and user perspectives....tips on using

I agree with Bob's rule however after scanning you could reduce the size of the image to no larger an image than 400dpi in width, in medium quality. This will fit all screens and load quickly. Every Microsoft loaded system has this capability. Perry

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Greenmouse,
Here is an example of one of your images in the auction reduced to fit ... 400dpi width (medium ) ... of course you could go to 600 dpi if desired.
Perry
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29 Dec 2009
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I just noticed that wfeike has 3 lots listed that don't have thumbnails: Switzerland 244, 245 & 246. I was thinking today that I had missed changing the Relist program to handle the new thumbnail process, and unfortunately Bill found the problem before I could fix it tonight. Sorry about that Bill. The Relist program is now fixed so that it will hand the thumbnails when relisting a closed lot. Please let me know if you find an issues with it.

Regards ... Tim.

Bill, if you want to fix the thumbnails on those three lots, just run them through the Auction Edit program and it will fix the problem for you. You don't have to change anything, just open then up in the edit program and press the submit button.

Tim.

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29 Dec 2009
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This is why we went from 50 bids at one time to over 400 bids at time!
I see you growing to the size of Ebay in the stamp dept.
More the sellers the better!!!
I am happy to be one of the first members.

Thank You for the prevledge(spilling) of having this great service!

Jerry

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I ment from 50 lots at one time to over 400 lots at time!

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29 Dec 2009
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Thanks Jerry. We have a great club together.

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Tim,

I just listed 3 lots and no thumbnails are showing up. Can you let me know if I have to further reduce the image size.

Many thanks,

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Hi Alyn,
You shouldn't have to reduce the image size. I'll look into it tonight for you.

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Tim,

I Just figured it out, I need to add the full URL to the image and it worked. Many thanks.

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