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Do any Stamporama members have access to data about the period in which this cancellation was used?
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Domestic Letter Rates effective August 1, 1958 rate end January 7, 1963 4 cents
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Thank you, 1899.
The one example of the cancellation I have in my collection is this postcard:
It was cancelled Nov. 3, 1965, I think — the indicia for the day appears to be broken:
So we can say, tentatively, that the cancellation was in use at least from January 7, 1963 to November 3, 1965.
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This machine cancel was used between 1956 and 1967, according to the Moe Luff "United States Postal Slogan Cancel Catalog", 1975 edition.
The catalog can be found on Stamp Smarter here
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/Home_C ...
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Thank you, Mike. That cancellation was in use for 11 years! That seems like a long time for a slogan cancellation. I haven't paid much attention to U.S. slogan cancels, except a few from the Second World War.
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Bob,
In 1965, November 3 was a Wednesday, while November 13 was a Saturday.
As the card was written on a Friday, I believe that the date November 13 is more likely.
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Thank you, simothecat. You are correct. I would have eventually looked into that, I think.The internet is great for searching for details like this: on what day did X happen to Y. I think that, using the internet, you could find the exact day of the week and the date on which that asteroid smashed into the earth and caused the extinction of the big dinosaurs! I could be wrong…
I took a closer look at that CDS. It’s the postcard’s caption, peeking from underneath the CDS, that appears to “modify” the date of the cancellation.
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The Post Mark Collectors Club is a philatelic organization for collectors who are interested in the postmarks used on the mails. While primarily directed to the postmarks of the United States, it does have members who are interested in the markings from other countries. Their home page is found here...
https://www.postmarks.org/
One of their projects is the National Postmark Museum, located in Bellevue, Ohio, in the Historic Lyme Village. The facility is a combination of the original post office building and a modern annex constructed in 2003 to accommodate their growing collection. The current postmark collection includes nearly 2 million postmarks and over 50,000 photographs of post offices.
While their current collecting focus is directed to postmarks on covers, they maintain an archive of older postmarks on both "cut-to-shape" and 2" x 4" cuts, which was the way that many postmark collectors collected these items in the early days.
One of these 2" x 4" cut collection is the "PRAY for PEACE" collection. I contacted the Museum Curator and he provided me with some estimates of the contents of that part of their collection, which is maintained in a manner that it was possible to develop some statistics of the usage of that slogan cancel.
The collection is organized such that they preserve one example of the "PRAY for PEACE" postmark used at each post office for each year recorded.
For post offices whose name which began with the letter "A", they have recorded its use at 110 post offices and one postal station, with 745 unique examples dating 1956 and 1997, which includes three outlying examples used at Abington, Mass in 1989, 1994, and 1997.
For post offices whose name which began with the letter "B", they have recorded its use at 147 post offices, with 1249 unique examples dating between 1956 and 1994, and many post offices are recorded with using the "PRAY for PEACE" cancel into the 1990s.
The total collection of just the "PRAY for PEACE" collection is estimated at 17,000 unique examples, from 2096 post offices, although they have many more examples of full covers which are not included in this tabulation.
They have many other projects including the regular publication of lists identifying all currently active post offices, stations and branches, and contract postal units, detailed information that was previous published in the Official Postal Guides, Directory of Post Offices, and the ZIP Code Manuals, but is no longer provided by the United States Postal Service in printed form. These lists are invaluable for tracking the status of post offices, stations and branches, and contract postal units, as well as providing information useful in requesting examples of their postmarks.
If collecting postmarks is part of your collecting interests, please check out their website, and join and support the group.
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Thank you, Mike. As they say, “Seek and ye shall find, if you know where to seek!”
It interesting that the “PRAY FOR PEACE” cancellation was in use for so many years — 38, from 1956 to 1994. It’s also interesting that during that entire time, U.S. forces were almost constantly involved in combat around the world, either as non-combatant advisors (who have rarely actually been non-combatants, except in their job descriptions) or as soldiers fighting imagined, apparent, or actual threats against the United States. Praying for peace didn’t seem to do much good!
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This U.S. slogan cancel saying "PRAY FOR PEACE" was in use during the Vietnam War:
Do any Stamporama members have access to data about the period in which this cancellation was used?
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Thank you, 1899.
The one example of the cancellation I have in my collection is this postcard:
It was cancelled Nov. 3, 1965, I think — the indicia for the day appears to be broken:
So we can say, tentatively, that the cancellation was in use at least from January 7, 1963 to November 3, 1965.
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re: "PRAY FOR PEACE"
This machine cancel was used between 1956 and 1967, according to the Moe Luff "United States Postal Slogan Cancel Catalog", 1975 edition.
The catalog can be found on Stamp Smarter here
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/Home_C ...
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Thank you, Mike. That cancellation was in use for 11 years! That seems like a long time for a slogan cancellation. I haven't paid much attention to U.S. slogan cancels, except a few from the Second World War.
Bob
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Bob,
In 1965, November 3 was a Wednesday, while November 13 was a Saturday.
As the card was written on a Friday, I believe that the date November 13 is more likely.
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Thank you, simothecat. You are correct. I would have eventually looked into that, I think.The internet is great for searching for details like this: on what day did X happen to Y. I think that, using the internet, you could find the exact day of the week and the date on which that asteroid smashed into the earth and caused the extinction of the big dinosaurs! I could be wrong…
I took a closer look at that CDS. It’s the postcard’s caption, peeking from underneath the CDS, that appears to “modify” the date of the cancellation.
Bob
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re: "PRAY FOR PEACE"
The Post Mark Collectors Club is a philatelic organization for collectors who are interested in the postmarks used on the mails. While primarily directed to the postmarks of the United States, it does have members who are interested in the markings from other countries. Their home page is found here...
https://www.postmarks.org/
One of their projects is the National Postmark Museum, located in Bellevue, Ohio, in the Historic Lyme Village. The facility is a combination of the original post office building and a modern annex constructed in 2003 to accommodate their growing collection. The current postmark collection includes nearly 2 million postmarks and over 50,000 photographs of post offices.
While their current collecting focus is directed to postmarks on covers, they maintain an archive of older postmarks on both "cut-to-shape" and 2" x 4" cuts, which was the way that many postmark collectors collected these items in the early days.
One of these 2" x 4" cut collection is the "PRAY for PEACE" collection. I contacted the Museum Curator and he provided me with some estimates of the contents of that part of their collection, which is maintained in a manner that it was possible to develop some statistics of the usage of that slogan cancel.
The collection is organized such that they preserve one example of the "PRAY for PEACE" postmark used at each post office for each year recorded.
For post offices whose name which began with the letter "A", they have recorded its use at 110 post offices and one postal station, with 745 unique examples dating 1956 and 1997, which includes three outlying examples used at Abington, Mass in 1989, 1994, and 1997.
For post offices whose name which began with the letter "B", they have recorded its use at 147 post offices, with 1249 unique examples dating between 1956 and 1994, and many post offices are recorded with using the "PRAY for PEACE" cancel into the 1990s.
The total collection of just the "PRAY for PEACE" collection is estimated at 17,000 unique examples, from 2096 post offices, although they have many more examples of full covers which are not included in this tabulation.
They have many other projects including the regular publication of lists identifying all currently active post offices, stations and branches, and contract postal units, detailed information that was previous published in the Official Postal Guides, Directory of Post Offices, and the ZIP Code Manuals, but is no longer provided by the United States Postal Service in printed form. These lists are invaluable for tracking the status of post offices, stations and branches, and contract postal units, as well as providing information useful in requesting examples of their postmarks.
If collecting postmarks is part of your collecting interests, please check out their website, and join and support the group.
Mike L
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Thank you, Mike. As they say, “Seek and ye shall find, if you know where to seek!”
It interesting that the “PRAY FOR PEACE” cancellation was in use for so many years — 38, from 1956 to 1994. It’s also interesting that during that entire time, U.S. forces were almost constantly involved in combat around the world, either as non-combatant advisors (who have rarely actually been non-combatants, except in their job descriptions) or as soldiers fighting imagined, apparent, or actual threats against the United States. Praying for peace didn’t seem to do much good!
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