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I have never seen anything like this before. I find it fascinating. I can't think of an explanation for this.
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06:26:46pm
I'm not an expert by any means but does this fit the definition of a joint line pair?
"A joint line pair has a joint line between the stamps, deriving from the seam in the cylindrical plate used to print the stamps. These lines are somewhat smeared in appearance."
I sort of assumed it was the colours from the stamp making a smeared line between the two coils. This quite different from a guide line pair.
"A guide line pair has a guide line between the stamps. Since the guide lines are deliberately incised into the plate, they will generally be sharp and clear."
As I said I'm not an expert so I might be totally out to lunch with this!!
Found this image on line. It's sort of similar except the one you show is much more smeared. Check the 13 cent example.
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Thanks for the image Joe. I think you've nailed it, they seem to be similar, with my example being a bit extreme as you said
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I vigorously disagree. A joint line pair has a line that goes the full vertical distance of the stamp. The 8 cent example you provide and Dave's pair are not line pairs as the "line" does not extend the full vertical length of the stamp.
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I do love a bit of vigorous disagreement 
Joe's image is the closest I've come to an answer. Could it just be a "freak" poorly done line? I don't know about printing processes for these stamps, so my input is nil!
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08:31:54am
As I said I am no expert on these things! Please feel free to argue but my picture is the closest I could find. I remember once reading that that kind of a line was very much like a squeegee dropping ink.
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All four of the coils stamps in the image posted by Harvey were printed on the Multicolor Huck Press. The introduction of the Scott US Specialized says this about joint lines and the Huck Press.
The existence of partial joint lines is also footnoted after Scott 1519 (10c) and 1625 (13c). Note that 13c coils were also printed on the B press and those have no joint lines.
The Scott Catalog is your friend.
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Most excellent info, Tom.
You are correct; for all its 'faults' the Scott catalog is our friend.....read the footnotes!
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So, is this what can be expected to be found, or is it an extreme example?
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Ah, I stand corrected.
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"So, is this what can be expected to be found, or is it an extreme example? "
What counts as extreme can't really be determined from the info in Scott. One would have to examine many examples to propose degrees.
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The US isn't my strong point, so I'd appreciate any input about this one. The colour bleed near the centre perfs is unusual, has anyone seen similar?
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I have never seen anything like this before. I find it fascinating. I can't think of an explanation for this.
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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
06 Oct 2025
06:26:46pm
re: 1968 6c Flag Issue Error
I'm not an expert by any means but does this fit the definition of a joint line pair?
"A joint line pair has a joint line between the stamps, deriving from the seam in the cylindrical plate used to print the stamps. These lines are somewhat smeared in appearance."
I sort of assumed it was the colours from the stamp making a smeared line between the two coils. This quite different from a guide line pair.
"A guide line pair has a guide line between the stamps. Since the guide lines are deliberately incised into the plate, they will generally be sharp and clear."
As I said I'm not an expert so I might be totally out to lunch with this!!
Found this image on line. It's sort of similar except the one you show is much more smeared. Check the 13 cent example.
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Thanks for the image Joe. I think you've nailed it, they seem to be similar, with my example being a bit extreme as you said
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I vigorously disagree. A joint line pair has a line that goes the full vertical distance of the stamp. The 8 cent example you provide and Dave's pair are not line pairs as the "line" does not extend the full vertical length of the stamp.
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I do love a bit of vigorous disagreement
Joe's image is the closest I've come to an answer. Could it just be a "freak" poorly done line? I don't know about printing processes for these stamps, so my input is nil!
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09 Oct 2025
08:31:54am
re: 1968 6c Flag Issue Error
As I said I am no expert on these things! Please feel free to argue but my picture is the closest I could find. I remember once reading that that kind of a line was very much like a squeegee dropping ink.
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02:51:50pm
re: 1968 6c Flag Issue Error
All four of the coils stamps in the image posted by Harvey were printed on the Multicolor Huck Press. The introduction of the Scott US Specialized says this about joint lines and the Huck Press.
The existence of partial joint lines is also footnoted after Scott 1519 (10c) and 1625 (13c). Note that 13c coils were also printed on the B press and those have no joint lines.
The Scott Catalog is your friend.
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re: 1968 6c Flag Issue Error
Most excellent info, Tom.
You are correct; for all its 'faults' the Scott catalog is our friend.....read the footnotes!
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re: 1968 6c Flag Issue Error
So, is this what can be expected to be found, or is it an extreme example?
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Ah, I stand corrected.
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"So, is this what can be expected to be found, or is it an extreme example? "
What counts as extreme can't really be determined from the info in Scott. One would have to examine many examples to propose degrees.
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