Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
One of our members sent me the following request:
"I used to buy from your dealers, but lately all they seem to post is older or common stamps?
I need 2015 to 2025 issues used. Any advice? Even 2005 to date would be nice. Like the major European countries
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Can any of you assist?
Regards ... Tim
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Unfortunately I keep most of the 2010+ for my own collection.
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"all they seem to post is older or common stamps?"
backs up what I have said in another thread
"However my main point was/is that listing dozens of 3 very very common items at minimal cost in the Auctions is detrimental to the look and appeal of the Auctions here."
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Tim is talking about newer stamps
it goes back to what people (beginners and mid level) are looking for
Collectible stamps at a reasonable price
If you have them, why not post them
No beginers and midlevel collectors I know wants to pay the high professional dealer prices
I think blowhards constantly complaining about the amount of common stamps are doing and injustice to the "spirit" of the club
Seems these people don't want buyers to see what's being offered
These chronic complainers can add the offending sellers to their blocked sellers list
Oh wait, they purportedly have already done that
Sorry, I got off topic because of comments made by another member.
I agree with Tim, sellers should try to put their new stuff up as well so the buyer have a good selection to choose from
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If you wonder why there is lack of new stamps just look at your mail. No one writes letters anymore and very few business use stamps, much less commemoratives
If a dealer buys new stamps at the Post Office how much do you expect he is going to charge? How is he going to break up a sheet to sell individual MNH stamps? All a dealer can do is use them for postage.
I haven't looked at kiloware lately. Does it even exist for new US stamps?? I guess it must but the economics of processing (and the market) has changed substantially.
Just my thought - I could be wrong (it happens more often than I wish to admit).
Time for more coffee
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I'm still able to find kiloware but it is expensive. It's how I have built my collection over the years. I bought three boxes, 5 pounds each, in August and am halfway through the second box. I'm easily able to sell my leftovers in the stamp club auctions. Good luck!
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I might be willing to peruse my recent covers to see what duplicates I have.
Assuming these are mostly forever first class commemoratives, what price would they likely command here? And would people, especially the person whose request started this thread, be willing to look the stamps with descriptions like horse stamp, Mississippi river boat, etc., with pix.
In addition, would it be acceptable to put a dozen different recent stamps in a single lot, and at what price?
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Of course, to me, a recent stamp is anything after 1936!
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I think I can arrange that, for most European countries. The past few months I noticed a lesser interest in that kind of material, so I switched to older stamps and back of the book material, but I am certainly open to redo some of the countries I had on offer recently.
One note though: I hardly do auctions, as I find it too time consuming compared to the approvals.
Right now I already have a few books with more recent stuff, such as #35415 with recent Netherlands.
OK, make that two notes. Second note: do not expect a large number of books with new(er) stamps by the end of the day or even tomorrow. It may take a few days.
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It is not easy to find recent foreign new issues at prices comparable to the prices that we can pay for older stamps.
I think the price that dealers charge for foreign mint stamps of the last twenty years mainly reflects the increase in face value of the stamps needed to cover the postal rates. When dealers figure in the price they have to pay for the stamps, the currency conversion rates and then add on their other overhead expenses, their prices for mint, never-hinged stamps come very close to the Scott catalogue values (anywhere from 60% to over 100% of Scott values). Many collectors would like to purchase these stamps at 20% to 35% of Scott, but for foreign stamps of the last twenty years that is very hard to do. Just take a look at some of the large dealers pricelists of modern foreign stamps. I doubt you will find any of these stamps at less than 70% of Scott. You can buy large stamp collections at discounts to Scott, but you will not find many offering stamps after 2000.
Many years ago I purchased worldwide new issues from Kent-Research, a division of Herrick Stamp Company in Hewlett, New York. They closed their new issue service in 2022 and I then started buying from another worldwide dealer.
Below are my costs for a couple of new issues that I purchased in the years noted in the table that you might find of interest.
Fred
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One Kilo of GB Kiloware is around £50 ie $65.
With no guarantee that there would be sufficient items in the 2010 to 2025 range, at prices one could achieve on here for a return on the "investment".
Most of the sellers are NOT dealers. They are collectors disposing of their duplicates.
In my case I buy mixed boxes, keep what I want for my collection and sell a few items on here.
It is nice to move on ones duplicates to other collectors at very reasonable prices.
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Note from a seller who is not a dealer ;-)
For your information, I have put the first two of a yet unknown number of approval books online with (very) recent stamps.
I will be adding recent France, Germany, Hungary, Belgium and more in the coming week(s).
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Hi SOR Sellers,
One of our members sent me the following request:
"I used to buy from your dealers, but lately all they seem to post is older or common stamps?
I need 2015 to 2025 issues used. Any advice? Even 2005 to date would be nice. Like the major European countries
"
Can any of you assist?
Regards ... Tim
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
Unfortunately I keep most of the 2010+ for my own collection.
The members comment:-
"all they seem to post is older or common stamps?"
backs up what I have said in another thread
"However my main point was/is that listing dozens of 3 very very common items at minimal cost in the Auctions is detrimental to the look and appeal of the Auctions here."
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
Tim is talking about newer stamps
it goes back to what people (beginners and mid level) are looking for
Collectible stamps at a reasonable price
If you have them, why not post them
No beginers and midlevel collectors I know wants to pay the high professional dealer prices
I think blowhards constantly complaining about the amount of common stamps are doing and injustice to the "spirit" of the club
Seems these people don't want buyers to see what's being offered
These chronic complainers can add the offending sellers to their blocked sellers list
Oh wait, they purportedly have already done that
Sorry, I got off topic because of comments made by another member.
I agree with Tim, sellers should try to put their new stuff up as well so the buyer have a good selection to choose from
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
If you wonder why there is lack of new stamps just look at your mail. No one writes letters anymore and very few business use stamps, much less commemoratives
If a dealer buys new stamps at the Post Office how much do you expect he is going to charge? How is he going to break up a sheet to sell individual MNH stamps? All a dealer can do is use them for postage.
I haven't looked at kiloware lately. Does it even exist for new US stamps?? I guess it must but the economics of processing (and the market) has changed substantially.
Just my thought - I could be wrong (it happens more often than I wish to admit).
Time for more coffee
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
I'm still able to find kiloware but it is expensive. It's how I have built my collection over the years. I bought three boxes, 5 pounds each, in August and am halfway through the second box. I'm easily able to sell my leftovers in the stamp club auctions. Good luck!
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
and there you have it
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
I might be willing to peruse my recent covers to see what duplicates I have.
Assuming these are mostly forever first class commemoratives, what price would they likely command here? And would people, especially the person whose request started this thread, be willing to look the stamps with descriptions like horse stamp, Mississippi river boat, etc., with pix.
In addition, would it be acceptable to put a dozen different recent stamps in a single lot, and at what price?
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
Of course, to me, a recent stamp is anything after 1936!
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
I think I can arrange that, for most European countries. The past few months I noticed a lesser interest in that kind of material, so I switched to older stamps and back of the book material, but I am certainly open to redo some of the countries I had on offer recently.
One note though: I hardly do auctions, as I find it too time consuming compared to the approvals.
Right now I already have a few books with more recent stuff, such as #35415 with recent Netherlands.
OK, make that two notes. Second note: do not expect a large number of books with new(er) stamps by the end of the day or even tomorrow. It may take a few days.
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
It is not easy to find recent foreign new issues at prices comparable to the prices that we can pay for older stamps.
I think the price that dealers charge for foreign mint stamps of the last twenty years mainly reflects the increase in face value of the stamps needed to cover the postal rates. When dealers figure in the price they have to pay for the stamps, the currency conversion rates and then add on their other overhead expenses, their prices for mint, never-hinged stamps come very close to the Scott catalogue values (anywhere from 60% to over 100% of Scott values). Many collectors would like to purchase these stamps at 20% to 35% of Scott, but for foreign stamps of the last twenty years that is very hard to do. Just take a look at some of the large dealers pricelists of modern foreign stamps. I doubt you will find any of these stamps at less than 70% of Scott. You can buy large stamp collections at discounts to Scott, but you will not find many offering stamps after 2000.
Many years ago I purchased worldwide new issues from Kent-Research, a division of Herrick Stamp Company in Hewlett, New York. They closed their new issue service in 2022 and I then started buying from another worldwide dealer.
Below are my costs for a couple of new issues that I purchased in the years noted in the table that you might find of interest.
Fred
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re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
One Kilo of GB Kiloware is around £50 ie $65.
With no guarantee that there would be sufficient items in the 2010 to 2025 range, at prices one could achieve on here for a return on the "investment".
Most of the sellers are NOT dealers. They are collectors disposing of their duplicates.
In my case I buy mixed boxes, keep what I want for my collection and sell a few items on here.
It is nice to move on ones duplicates to other collectors at very reasonable prices.
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Approvals
re: Tim with a request from a member to our Sellers on Material he'd like to see in the Auction
Note from a seller who is not a dealer ;-)
For your information, I have put the first two of a yet unknown number of approval books online with (very) recent stamps.
I will be adding recent France, Germany, Hungary, Belgium and more in the coming week(s).
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