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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Is this Canada MR4a?

 

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13 Jan 2026
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13 Jan 2026
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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

The single white line beneath the "T" makes it die 1.

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13 Jan 2026
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Definitely Die 1

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13 Jan 2026
09:13:43pm
re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Nice stamp, it appears to regummed on the right side.

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14 Jan 2026
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Vinman.

I'm admittedly no expert on regumming, but I wonder if you are correct on this one. The fibers on perf tips look the same on the right as the rest of the stamp. Always more than willing to enhance my "skill" at stuff like this. What leads you to question this? Again, please don't take this negatively.

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14 Jan 2026
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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

John, The first scan shows white on the perf tips and the bottom of the perfs, especially the right side. Some paper fibers show the same white (glue) which tells me it was regummed.
The back of the stamp shows this more clearly on the bottom between the sixth and seventh perf from the right.
No worries, nothing to be taken negatively.
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14 Jan 2026
08:29:38am
re: Is this Canada MR4a?

If this is regummed, I'd suggest it was done a long time ago, as the gum is aged uniformly. Considering the catalogue value, I'd get a certificate for this one

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14 Jan 2026
09:46:03am
re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Thanks Vince.
Dave...good idea. I will do so.

Just as an aside, this lad was included with a bunch of other canada stamps on a collecto exhibit page from a "mystery box".
I used to be a metal detectorist until my knees gave out......this is almost as fun! However, not long ago I threw away another such box that had nothing but common stamps...most used.

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15 Jan 2026
03:18:50pm
re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Hmmm....cost of Greene certification almost $150. With the chance at it being resumed, I'm not sure it makes sense based sales on HS, which are wide ranged. Thoughts?

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15 Jan 2026
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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

I wouldn't bother with a certificate! Price it as an MR4a and take off a percentage (not sure how much) because of disturbed gum. Just an opinion!!

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15 Jan 2026
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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

That's a ludicrous charge for a certificate, have they got the local market wrapped up? Here's a few others for comparison

Royal Philatelic Society of London - £35
Stefan Heijtz (THE Falkland Islands expert) - £20
Chris Ceremuga - $50

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16 Jan 2026
12:58:06am
re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Some stamp expertisers, including VGG in Canada charge a percentage of catalog value, rather than a set fee.

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16 Jan 2026
08:34:09am
re: Is this Canada MR4a?

he certainly charge was $70, rest was shipping...tariffs?

It seems obvious it's an "a", so an expert would seem to be only clearing up the re-gumming question. Am I wrong?

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16 Jan 2026
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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

By signing the certificate the expert should be looking for any of the myriad ways a stamp doctor can repair, alter, improve etc a stamp. He will certify the stamp has not been altered to pass as a Die I (yes, it can be done), the hinging (in this case it is evident but it could probably be made to pass as NH using a fine brush, a sharp scalpel, and lots of patience. He will check to make sure it does not show signs of reperfing, that it has not been chemically cleaned, etc. While all certificates are just opinions, not guarantees - most, not all, expertization services are fairly diligent in their assessment.Add in that the tools used become a bit more sophisticated over the years and you can understand why expensive stamps are often re-certified if the certificate is old or is from services that have a reputation for their certificates to fail re-certification on a regular basis.

I learned a lot selling at shows 2 or 3 times a month back in the 80's and early 90's - I am sure some things have changed but some certainly haven't.

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16 Jan 2026
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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Decided to pass on cert. Listed this afternoon in my HS store. Disclosed everything I believe.

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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

The single white line beneath the "T" makes it die 1.

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Definitely Die 1

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13 Jan 2026
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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Nice stamp, it appears to regummed on the right side.

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14 Jan 2026
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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

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Vinman.

I'm admittedly no expert on regumming, but I wonder if you are correct on this one. The fibers on perf tips look the same on the right as the rest of the stamp. Always more than willing to enhance my "skill" at stuff like this. What leads you to question this? Again, please don't take this negatively.

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14 Jan 2026
08:23:04am

re: Is this Canada MR4a?

John, The first scan shows white on the perf tips and the bottom of the perfs, especially the right side. Some paper fibers show the same white (glue) which tells me it was regummed.
The back of the stamp shows this more clearly on the bottom between the sixth and seventh perf from the right.
No worries, nothing to be taken negatively.
Vince

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14 Jan 2026
08:29:38am

re: Is this Canada MR4a?

If this is regummed, I'd suggest it was done a long time ago, as the gum is aged uniformly. Considering the catalogue value, I'd get a certificate for this one

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14 Jan 2026
09:46:03am

re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Thanks Vince.
Dave...good idea. I will do so.

Just as an aside, this lad was included with a bunch of other canada stamps on a collecto exhibit page from a "mystery box".
I used to be a metal detectorist until my knees gave out......this is almost as fun! However, not long ago I threw away another such box that had nothing but common stamps...most used.

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15 Jan 2026
03:18:50pm

re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Hmmm....cost of Greene certification almost $150. With the chance at it being resumed, I'm not sure it makes sense based sales on HS, which are wide ranged. Thoughts?

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15 Jan 2026
05:35:40pm

re: Is this Canada MR4a?

I wouldn't bother with a certificate! Price it as an MR4a and take off a percentage (not sure how much) because of disturbed gum. Just an opinion!!

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15 Jan 2026
09:36:53pm

re: Is this Canada MR4a?

That's a ludicrous charge for a certificate, have they got the local market wrapped up? Here's a few others for comparison

Royal Philatelic Society of London - £35
Stefan Heijtz (THE Falkland Islands expert) - £20
Chris Ceremuga - $50

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16 Jan 2026
12:58:06am

re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Some stamp expertisers, including VGG in Canada charge a percentage of catalog value, rather than a set fee.

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bigcreekdad

16 Jan 2026
08:34:09am

re: Is this Canada MR4a?

he certainly charge was $70, rest was shipping...tariffs?

It seems obvious it's an "a", so an expert would seem to be only clearing up the re-gumming question. Am I wrong?

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16 Jan 2026
11:56:46am

re: Is this Canada MR4a?

By signing the certificate the expert should be looking for any of the myriad ways a stamp doctor can repair, alter, improve etc a stamp. He will certify the stamp has not been altered to pass as a Die I (yes, it can be done), the hinging (in this case it is evident but it could probably be made to pass as NH using a fine brush, a sharp scalpel, and lots of patience. He will check to make sure it does not show signs of reperfing, that it has not been chemically cleaned, etc. While all certificates are just opinions, not guarantees - most, not all, expertization services are fairly diligent in their assessment.Add in that the tools used become a bit more sophisticated over the years and you can understand why expensive stamps are often re-certified if the certificate is old or is from services that have a reputation for their certificates to fail re-certification on a regular basis.

I learned a lot selling at shows 2 or 3 times a month back in the 80's and early 90's - I am sure some things have changed but some certainly haven't.

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16 Jan 2026
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re: Is this Canada MR4a?

Decided to pass on cert. Listed this afternoon in my HS store. Disclosed everything I believe.

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