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United States/Covers & Postmarks : Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

 

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Stampcommune

07 Jan 2011
07:40:52pm
Hi all,
In December I shipped items out with a "non-bendable" plastic insert to all my non-US bidders. On January 3rd and 4th I received back the majority of these items as "insufficient postage" since there require a additional 20 cents fro this. I did email the majority of users that were affected by this and got all the shipments that I received back, re-shipped.
I did receive a email from a member who let me know they have not received their shipment. If you have NOT been contacted by me regarding a shipment AND have NOT received a shipment from December from me, please post a short message here noting the invoice number.

To David Teisler: I did request the member that emailed me to please forward the information regarding their shipment to you so it is noted for the record.

StampCommune
Grant Wagoner

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07 Jan 2011
08:23:40pm
re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Any insert that cannot be bent takes 20c additional US postage,
When sending stamps, if you just enclose them in a glassine envelope, there is a good chance that they will arrive bent. I always use corrugated board, and attach the glassine to the board with masking tape.
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Arklight

07 Jan 2011
09:13:00pm
re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

If your packet is not flexible enough to pass through the cancelling machine, you should mark on the front 'Non Machinable', and affix the additional 20cents. Note: All merchandise shipped to foreign addresses require the USPS Customs Declaration Form, which is free. I scan the completed form, attached to packet, to disk with an identifying notation. The form is serially numbered, so if you have the scan the number can function (sort of) as a domestic tracking number and proof of delivery at the other end. I've not lost a single non domestic shipment since I got familiar with the Customs form.
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Drg

07 Jan 2011
09:20:13pm
re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

From the USPS website
Prices (Effective May 11, 2009)

Letters are subject to a $0.20 surcharge if they are square, rigid or have certain nonmachinable characteristics.

First-Class Mail® Large Envelopes (Flats)
WEIGHT PRICE
1 oz $0.88
2 oz $1.05
3 oz $1.22
4 oz $1.39

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Stampme

07 Jan 2011
09:52:45pm
re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Please note that Large Envelopes First Class rate must be flexible and cannot have a stiff insert. There is an illustration on the USPS site showing the degree of flexibility allowed for Large Envelope Rate. If the insert for Large Envelope is TOO STIFF, it must be shipped at the First Class Parcel Rate.

The nonmachinable surcharge is for First Class Letter Rate. The envelope size allowed is fairly large but must not be confused with the Large Envelope Rate.

Bruce

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Estampsnet

08 Jan 2011
07:44:01am
re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Arklight, if you use the new customs form (PS 2976) which is a small four part form and should be in the PO's lobby with the rest of the forms, you won't have to scan anything because it has a tear-off which you get back with the tracking number and a date and time stamp.

Drg, if you keep your mailers under a 1/4 thick you can use 'Cards and Letters' rate and pay a 20 cent surcharge. This is a lot less than 'flat rate'. I send 50 to 60 of these out every week and save a lot of postage which saves my customers money too.

Don

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08 Jan 2011
09:49:30am

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to Grant and all you lucky recipients of these mailings. The 64c non-machinable covers are pretty scarce; finding one that's gone through the mail twice, with postal notations, is a true rarity. Any winners who wish to trade their covers for something can contact me directly. I am also certain that these would get at least one bid, probably several, if offered at reasonable opening bids in our auction. Just a thought.

David the ever vigilant auctioneer and collector of odd postal history

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Stampme

08 Jan 2011
10:47:21am
re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Hi David,

Would you explain "...finding one that's gone through the mail twice, with postal notations, is a true rarity."

I'm not sure what that means.
Thanks,
Bruce

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Stampcommune

08 Jan 2011
11:04:42am
re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Hi David,
Unfortunately, those winners won't be getting any twice used covers. I opened everything I received back , repackaged it in a new envelope and re-shipped them. Sorry. I didn't want them to come back again using the same envelope, I thought about it, but my postal lady suggested not to.
Grant

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08 Jan 2011
02:25:32pm
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I have been using the 64¢ stamp on most of my shipments. (44¢ rate plus 20¢ surcharge), so there should be hundreds of my covers floating around out there, providing the recipients saved them.
Richaard

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08 Jan 2011
04:51:16pm

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Bruce,

most of the non-machinable material just gets processed, even if it's bumped out of the automated system. And non-machinable material accounts for a very small percentage of first class mail (most will travel as flats or parcels or sneak through incorrectly as regular first class). So, finding a non-machinable rate is rare; finding one that came back, as it did to Grant, with markings indicating it was deficient, is more so; finding that which was returned, uprated, and resent, well....

David

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Stampme

08 Jan 2011
07:07:36pm
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Thanks, David! Of course, I wasn't thinking. Makes sense. Those would be on the rare side.
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Stampcommune

07 Jan 2011
07:40:52pm

Hi all,
In December I shipped items out with a "non-bendable" plastic insert to all my non-US bidders. On January 3rd and 4th I received back the majority of these items as "insufficient postage" since there require a additional 20 cents fro this. I did email the majority of users that were affected by this and got all the shipments that I received back, re-shipped.
I did receive a email from a member who let me know they have not received their shipment. If you have NOT been contacted by me regarding a shipment AND have NOT received a shipment from December from me, please post a short message here noting the invoice number.

To David Teisler: I did request the member that emailed me to please forward the information regarding their shipment to you so it is noted for the record.

StampCommune
Grant Wagoner

(Message edited by stampcommune on January 07, 2011)

(Message edited by stampcommune on January 07, 2011)

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Rgnpcs

07 Jan 2011
08:23:40pm

re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Any insert that cannot be bent takes 20c additional US postage,
When sending stamps, if you just enclose them in a glassine envelope, there is a good chance that they will arrive bent. I always use corrugated board, and attach the glassine to the board with masking tape.
Rchaard

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Arklight

07 Jan 2011
09:13:00pm

re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

If your packet is not flexible enough to pass through the cancelling machine, you should mark on the front 'Non Machinable', and affix the additional 20cents. Note: All merchandise shipped to foreign addresses require the USPS Customs Declaration Form, which is free. I scan the completed form, attached to packet, to disk with an identifying notation. The form is serially numbered, so if you have the scan the number can function (sort of) as a domestic tracking number and proof of delivery at the other end. I've not lost a single non domestic shipment since I got familiar with the Customs form.
Arklight

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Drg

07 Jan 2011
09:20:13pm

re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

From the USPS website
Prices (Effective May 11, 2009)

Letters are subject to a $0.20 surcharge if they are square, rigid or have certain nonmachinable characteristics.

First-Class Mail® Large Envelopes (Flats)
WEIGHT PRICE
1 oz $0.88
2 oz $1.05
3 oz $1.22
4 oz $1.39

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Stampme

07 Jan 2011
09:52:45pm

re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Please note that Large Envelopes First Class rate must be flexible and cannot have a stiff insert. There is an illustration on the USPS site showing the degree of flexibility allowed for Large Envelope Rate. If the insert for Large Envelope is TOO STIFF, it must be shipped at the First Class Parcel Rate.

The nonmachinable surcharge is for First Class Letter Rate. The envelope size allowed is fairly large but must not be confused with the Large Envelope Rate.

Bruce

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Estampsnet

08 Jan 2011
07:44:01am

re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Arklight, if you use the new customs form (PS 2976) which is a small four part form and should be in the PO's lobby with the rest of the forms, you won't have to scan anything because it has a tear-off which you get back with the tracking number and a date and time stamp.

Drg, if you keep your mailers under a 1/4 thick you can use 'Cards and Letters' rate and pay a 20 cent surcharge. This is a lot less than 'flat rate'. I send 50 to 60 of these out every week and save a lot of postage which saves my customers money too.

Don

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08 Jan 2011
09:49:30am

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re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

to Grant and all you lucky recipients of these mailings. The 64c non-machinable covers are pretty scarce; finding one that's gone through the mail twice, with postal notations, is a true rarity. Any winners who wish to trade their covers for something can contact me directly. I am also certain that these would get at least one bid, probably several, if offered at reasonable opening bids in our auction. Just a thought.

David the ever vigilant auctioneer and collector of odd postal history

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Stampme

08 Jan 2011
10:47:21am

re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Hi David,

Would you explain "...finding one that's gone through the mail twice, with postal notations, is a true rarity."

I'm not sure what that means.
Thanks,
Bruce

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Stampcommune

08 Jan 2011
11:04:42am

re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Hi David,
Unfortunately, those winners won't be getting any twice used covers. I opened everything I received back , repackaged it in a new envelope and re-shipped them. Sorry. I didn't want them to come back again using the same envelope, I thought about it, but my postal lady suggested not to.
Grant

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Rgnpcs

08 Jan 2011
02:25:32pm

re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

I have been using the 64¢ stamp on most of my shipments. (44¢ rate plus 20¢ surcharge), so there should be hundreds of my covers floating around out there, providing the recipients saved them.
Richaard

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08 Jan 2011
04:51:16pm

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re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Bruce,

most of the non-machinable material just gets processed, even if it's bumped out of the automated system. And non-machinable material accounts for a very small percentage of first class mail (most will travel as flats or parcels or sneak through incorrectly as regular first class). So, finding a non-machinable rate is rare; finding one that came back, as it did to Grant, with markings indicating it was deficient, is more so; finding that which was returned, uprated, and resent, well....

David

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Stampme

08 Jan 2011
07:07:36pm

re: Non-Machinable envelopes; explaining the surcharge

Thanks, David! Of course, I wasn't thinking. Makes sense. Those would be on the rare side.
Bruce

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