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Asia/Other : Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

 

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timbres
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25 Nov 2011
02:37:15pm
I have this stamp I can't find in anny catalogue it is, a # 154 (Scott) in Manchuco 1944
but he got 2 overprint, one in top seam to be a China identification and one in the middle
with 4 chineese sign...
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can somebody help me... I search in Scott international, in all asian contry, no clue ???

Jacques (Stamporama ID: timbres)
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michael78651

25 Nov 2011
04:35:19pm
re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

See the note in Scott at the end of the Manchukuo listings regarding the overprints.

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28 Nov 2011
10:47:17am
re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

At the end of the war the Chinese used available stamps and overprinted them with characters. Chinese and Japanese characters are very similar thus the difficulty in reading thr writing. This stamp is Manchuko #150.

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michael78651

28 Nov 2011
02:07:02pm
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I have to disagree with you. The stamp is not Manchukuo, Scott #150, issued in 1943. The non-overprinted version of the stamp in the image is Scott #154, issued in 1944,(easily identified by the character in the bottom right corner of the box).

Overprinted varieties of this and many other Manchukuo stamps are not listed by Scott. Again, read the information box regarding these overprints at the end of the Manchukuo listings in Scott.

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30 Nov 2011
12:38:42pm
re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

Hi everybody, I agree, hit's not a Manchuko 150, I saw the text at the end of Monchuko listing. But is there annybody hou have a Chineese / manchuko catalogue, and can identified the 2 overprint on this stamp or someone hou can translate the 2 overprint...
tank you, Jacques (sorry for my so-so english)

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30 Nov 2011
01:30:23pm
re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

My stupid, of course it is #154 and my wife read that the writing on the top section is a prefecture in China written in Chinese. Although my wife is Japanese she reads Chinese. These stamps were usable as postage after the departure of the Japanese after WWII.

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06 Dec 2011
02:39:34am
re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

The 4 characters in the top row mean "Chinese Postal Service".

The block of 4 characters beneath that mean "Temporary Use in North East" (i.e., NE China).

This is a local overprint used in areas recovered by the Nationalists after the collapse of the Manchukuo puppet regime. They are mentioned, but not cataloged by Scott. There are a wide variety of overprint wording and styles.

And yes, the original stamp is Manchukuo #154 in the Scott catalog.

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11 Dec 2011
01:40:00am

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Hi All
A great web site for all these Manchuco overprints is "http://www.manchukuostamps.com/ManchurianLocalOverprints.htm "

I have found it very useful.Hope you do to.

Brian

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15 Dec 2011
10:49:43am
re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

Tank you everybody, specialy Brian for the reference "Web site" wow....wow... wath a great site with so many information...

Jacques

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timbres

25 Nov 2011
02:37:15pm

I have this stamp I can't find in anny catalogue it is, a # 154 (Scott) in Manchuco 1944
but he got 2 overprint, one in top seam to be a China identification and one in the middle
with 4 chineese sign...
Image Not Found

Image Not Found

Image Not Found

can somebody help me... I search in Scott international, in all asian contry, no clue ???

Jacques (Stamporama ID: timbres)

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michael78651

25 Nov 2011
04:35:19pm

re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

See the note in Scott at the end of the Manchukuo listings regarding the overprints.

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sponthetrona2

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28 Nov 2011
10:47:17am

re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

At the end of the war the Chinese used available stamps and overprinted them with characters. Chinese and Japanese characters are very similar thus the difficulty in reading thr writing. This stamp is Manchuko #150.

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michael78651

28 Nov 2011
02:07:02pm

re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

I have to disagree with you. The stamp is not Manchukuo, Scott #150, issued in 1943. The non-overprinted version of the stamp in the image is Scott #154, issued in 1944,(easily identified by the character in the bottom right corner of the box).

Overprinted varieties of this and many other Manchukuo stamps are not listed by Scott. Again, read the information box regarding these overprints at the end of the Manchukuo listings in Scott.

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timbres

30 Nov 2011
12:38:42pm

re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

Hi everybody, I agree, hit's not a Manchuko 150, I saw the text at the end of Monchuko listing. But is there annybody hou have a Chineese / manchuko catalogue, and can identified the 2 overprint on this stamp or someone hou can translate the 2 overprint...
tank you, Jacques (sorry for my so-so english)

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sponthetrona2

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30 Nov 2011
01:30:23pm

re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

My stupid, of course it is #154 and my wife read that the writing on the top section is a prefecture in China written in Chinese. Although my wife is Japanese she reads Chinese. These stamps were usable as postage after the departure of the Japanese after WWII.

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khj

06 Dec 2011
02:39:34am

re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

The 4 characters in the top row mean "Chinese Postal Service".

The block of 4 characters beneath that mean "Temporary Use in North East" (i.e., NE China).

This is a local overprint used in areas recovered by the Nationalists after the collapse of the Manchukuo puppet regime. They are mentioned, but not cataloged by Scott. There are a wide variety of overprint wording and styles.

And yes, the original stamp is Manchukuo #154 in the Scott catalog.

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snowy12

11 Dec 2011
01:40:00am

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re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

Hi All
A great web site for all these Manchuco overprints is "http://www.manchukuostamps.com/ManchurianLocalOverprints.htm "

I have found it very useful.Hope you do to.

Brian

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timbres

15 Dec 2011
10:49:43am

re: Manchukuo: unlisted overprints

Tank you everybody, specialy Brian for the reference "Web site" wow....wow... wath a great site with so many information...

Jacques

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