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Europe/Great Britain : GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

 

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BadihBarakat

31 Jan 2012
07:25:53am
Hi,

I have found among my collection of stamps a GB stamp SC# 357, wm# 322, with the watermark upside down. I have checked the catalog, but they have mentioned nothing about such an occurrence. Any idea what might be the value of such stamp? images included bellow.

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The first image is a normal scan of the stamp back.
The second image is treated to make the watermarks visible. The crown (upside down) may be visible on the right side of stamp, darker than the others.
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31 Jan 2012
09:48:57am
re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

This is Stanley Gibbons 574wi. My latest catalogue is 1998. The used value for 1998 is 1 pound. Your's is damaged so that would lower the value considerably.

Bob

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michael78651

31 Jan 2012
10:38:27am
re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

Scott doesn't list many of the upsidedown and sideways watermarks. For British-area items, Gibbons is the better resource.

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31 Jan 2012
12:31:50pm
re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

Any stamp that has a watermark is a candidate for an inverted watermark and possibly a sideways watermark, especially if the stamp was issued in booklet format. The watermarks were put into the paper by one manufacturer and then a gigantic rolls are shipped to the printer who usually tried to get it right, but "Tis many a slip twixt the cup and the lip."

And for details of minor variation like that, Scott's is virtually useless for foreign stamps. If Scott listed every known variation it would take ten ot twelve volumes and three years to produce.

My solution is to use Gibbons for Great Britain and now and then purchase a slighty out of data foreign catalog. Last month I bought a four year old Facit that provides me all the info I need about Scandanavian Stamps.

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michael78651

31 Jan 2012
12:43:14pm
re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

Good advice. Out of date foreign catalogs are great reference material for Scott minor and unlisted varieties, which often times get major catalog numbers in the foreign catalog. And, they don't cost so much either.

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31 Jan 2012
05:30:14pm
re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

I pretty much only use Stanley Gibbons for GB material-- the "Great Britain Concise" catalogue has about all the information on varities, watermarks and so on I need-- Scott only comes out to cross-reference main catalogue numbers. It's not a horribly expensive book, and you can often pick up one that's only 2-3 years old for a relatively low price.

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BadihBarakat

31 Jan 2012
07:25:53am

Hi,

I have found among my collection of stamps a GB stamp SC# 357, wm# 322, with the watermark upside down. I have checked the catalog, but they have mentioned nothing about such an occurrence. Any idea what might be the value of such stamp? images included bellow.

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The first image is a normal scan of the stamp back.
The second image is treated to make the watermarks visible. The crown (upside down) may be visible on the right side of stamp, darker than the others.

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Immediate Past President - West Essex Philatelic Society www.wepsonline.org
31 Jan 2012
09:48:57am

re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

This is Stanley Gibbons 574wi. My latest catalogue is 1998. The used value for 1998 is 1 pound. Your's is damaged so that would lower the value considerably.

Bob

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michael78651

31 Jan 2012
10:38:27am

re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

Scott doesn't list many of the upsidedown and sideways watermarks. For British-area items, Gibbons is the better resource.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
31 Jan 2012
12:31:50pm

re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

Any stamp that has a watermark is a candidate for an inverted watermark and possibly a sideways watermark, especially if the stamp was issued in booklet format. The watermarks were put into the paper by one manufacturer and then a gigantic rolls are shipped to the printer who usually tried to get it right, but "Tis many a slip twixt the cup and the lip."

And for details of minor variation like that, Scott's is virtually useless for foreign stamps. If Scott listed every known variation it would take ten ot twelve volumes and three years to produce.

My solution is to use Gibbons for Great Britain and now and then purchase a slighty out of data foreign catalog. Last month I bought a four year old Facit that provides me all the info I need about Scandanavian Stamps.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
michael78651

31 Jan 2012
12:43:14pm

re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

Good advice. Out of date foreign catalogs are great reference material for Scott minor and unlisted varieties, which often times get major catalog numbers in the foreign catalog. And, they don't cost so much either.

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31 Jan 2012
05:30:14pm

re: GB Stamp SC 357 with upside down watermark 322

I pretty much only use Stanley Gibbons for GB material-- the "Great Britain Concise" catalogue has about all the information on varities, watermarks and so on I need-- Scott only comes out to cross-reference main catalogue numbers. It's not a horribly expensive book, and you can often pick up one that's only 2-3 years old for a relatively low price.

~Peter

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