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United States/Covers & Postmarks : I need some help understanding these interesting back stamps on UNPA covers

 

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05 Oct 2012
11:44:33am

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Hi all, perhaps one of you has the history, reason, and/or USPS regulation that begat this back stamp on a UNPA FDC. I have 7 oversized UN FDCs from a lot I bought a while ago. All are to the same person; 5 of the 7 have a single or multiple hand stamps: VERIFIED / UNITED NATIONS / POSTAL ADMINISTRATION on the back. The person is an officer, although I don't think this bears on the back stamp. Oddly enough, one of the two unstamped covers has the name without rank.

I suspect that the reason has to do with the payment of funds from UNPA to USPS to deliver the mail. I think that the UN paid the USPS for full services for all mail delivered by USPS (but retained monies represented by overfranking).

what do you think?

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05 Oct 2012
05:45:43pm
re: I need some help understanding these interesting back stamps on UNPA covers

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Its not really my field of specialization. Solomon Glass, an APS Hall of Famer wrote the book on United Nations Stamps in 1953. This cover dates 21 years later. I do not have a copy of Glass, The Story of United Nations Stamps. So, I cannot tell you if it covers backstamps or not. My guess is that it probably does. Maybe someone on the list has a copy or knows better. I will take a peak into Linn's World Stamp Almanac (2000), but I doubt anything is in there about this. I will keep you posted if I find anything. The phone number is 1-800-234-8672 = UNPA, or 212-963-7776. Someone in the UN Post Office might be able to help.

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michael78651

05 Oct 2012
06:46:13pm
re: I need some help understanding these interesting back stamps on UNPA covers

For many years, including this time period, I had a new issue subscription account with the United Nations Postal Administration. Back then you could get each new issue sent to you after each was issued for just 50 cents fee, including postage. Usually, they would put the same stamps on the cover and it would get a first day cancel. The back stamp in this case is to confirm that the new issue subscription order was filled properly, and was verified as such by a second UNPA employee.

The UNPA was a great organization to deal with in the 1970s. Then things started going bad in the 1980s, and I cancelled my account. My account number was just four digits long!

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05 Oct 2012
09:29:39pm

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re: I need some help understanding these interesting back stamps on UNPA covers

thanks Michael; interesting that it's administrative and not postal.

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Hi all, perhaps one of you has the history, reason, and/or USPS regulation that begat this back stamp on a UNPA FDC. I have 7 oversized UN FDCs from a lot I bought a while ago. All are to the same person; 5 of the 7 have a single or multiple hand stamps: VERIFIED / UNITED NATIONS / POSTAL ADMINISTRATION on the back. The person is an officer, although I don't think this bears on the back stamp. Oddly enough, one of the two unstamped covers has the name without rank.

I suspect that the reason has to do with the payment of funds from UNPA to USPS to deliver the mail. I think that the UN paid the USPS for full services for all mail delivered by USPS (but retained monies represented by overfranking).

what do you think?

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05 Oct 2012
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re: I need some help understanding these interesting back stamps on UNPA covers

Hi

Its not really my field of specialization. Solomon Glass, an APS Hall of Famer wrote the book on United Nations Stamps in 1953. This cover dates 21 years later. I do not have a copy of Glass, The Story of United Nations Stamps. So, I cannot tell you if it covers backstamps or not. My guess is that it probably does. Maybe someone on the list has a copy or knows better. I will take a peak into Linn's World Stamp Almanac (2000), but I doubt anything is in there about this. I will keep you posted if I find anything. The phone number is 1-800-234-8672 = UNPA, or 212-963-7776. Someone in the UN Post Office might be able to help.

John

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michael78651

05 Oct 2012
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re: I need some help understanding these interesting back stamps on UNPA covers

For many years, including this time period, I had a new issue subscription account with the United Nations Postal Administration. Back then you could get each new issue sent to you after each was issued for just 50 cents fee, including postage. Usually, they would put the same stamps on the cover and it would get a first day cancel. The back stamp in this case is to confirm that the new issue subscription order was filled properly, and was verified as such by a second UNPA employee.

The UNPA was a great organization to deal with in the 1970s. Then things started going bad in the 1980s, and I cancelled my account. My account number was just four digits long!

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re: I need some help understanding these interesting back stamps on UNPA covers

thanks Michael; interesting that it's administrative and not postal.

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