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Europe/Germany : How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

 

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michael78651

29 Aug 2013
02:56:22am
The Scott Catalog does a bad job of providing information on how to identify the three different printings of the Germany 1945-1946 Allied Military Government (AMG) Occupation Issue.

There are three distinct printings grouped by Scott into three sets. Only one has major catalog numbers, the other two have minor catalog numbering. These are:

Scott #3N1-3N20 (Type III Brunswick Printing set of 20)
Scott #3N2a-3N13a (Type I Washington Printing set of 9)
Scott #3N2b-3N8b (Type II London Printing set of 6)

Here is an image of the three types (Types I, II, and III from left to right):
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Scott describes the three types based on paper thickness (either thick or medium - whatever that is), gum (yellow or white - hard to tell on many after almost 60 years as the gum tends to tone into a yellow shade), size (all the same, except for some larger sized stamps from the Type III set that are not in the minor numbered sets), and perforations (with Types I and III sometimes having the same perforations.)

With Scott, the best way to identify these stamps is to get out a micrometer and determine what the width is for thick paper and medium paper. Not a good idea.

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michael78651

29 Aug 2013
03:04:32am
re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

The easiest set to identify is the Scott #3N2b-3N8b (Type II London Printing set of 6). In the previous post, the Type II stamp is the one in the middle. The stamps from this set are all perforated 14. Types I and III are not.

Identifying Types I and III is easy, when you know what to look for. Here is the solution looking at the right side of the stamp along the right vertical white line of the inner frame.

Type I:
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Type III:
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On Type I, to the left of the "P" and "G", there is only the stamp color on the other side of the line to the right of the ornaments.

On Type III, to the left of the "P" and "G", there are small white shapes on the other side of the line to the right of the ornaments. This appears on all Type III stamps.

There you have it. Nice and easy to identify these three sets of stamps that all look alike.


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michael78651

24 Jun 2016
12:57:14pm
re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

It's been a few years, and we have had many people join since. I thought I would bring this reference post back up for those who may be interested.

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24 Jun 2016
04:43:34pm
re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

I for one appreciate the lesson. Never knew. Thanks Ernie.........

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Jackkelly

10 Aug 2019
10:11:41pm
re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

Just found this thread. A much simpler way to determine the type of printings. Thanks

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07 Jan 2020
08:01:22am
re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

Well found an article about those stamps from Harry W Wilcke.

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07 Jan 2020
08:30:26pm
re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

I found Michael###s original article early on as a new SOR member and printed it to include with my new album on the postwar stamps once I decided to focus on Germany.

It was and still is invaluable. Many thanks for that contribution Michael!


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07 Jan 2020
08:40:13pm
re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

Those are JV Bush pages....might be copyrighted - not sure.

JV Bush, Inc. is a dealer in AMG stamp issues and pages.


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michael78651

29 Aug 2013
02:56:22am

The Scott Catalog does a bad job of providing information on how to identify the three different printings of the Germany 1945-1946 Allied Military Government (AMG) Occupation Issue.

There are three distinct printings grouped by Scott into three sets. Only one has major catalog numbers, the other two have minor catalog numbering. These are:

Scott #3N1-3N20 (Type III Brunswick Printing set of 20)
Scott #3N2a-3N13a (Type I Washington Printing set of 9)
Scott #3N2b-3N8b (Type II London Printing set of 6)

Here is an image of the three types (Types I, II, and III from left to right):
Image Not Found

Scott describes the three types based on paper thickness (either thick or medium - whatever that is), gum (yellow or white - hard to tell on many after almost 60 years as the gum tends to tone into a yellow shade), size (all the same, except for some larger sized stamps from the Type III set that are not in the minor numbered sets), and perforations (with Types I and III sometimes having the same perforations.)

With Scott, the best way to identify these stamps is to get out a micrometer and determine what the width is for thick paper and medium paper. Not a good idea.

(Continued on next post.)

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michael78651

29 Aug 2013
03:04:32am

re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

The easiest set to identify is the Scott #3N2b-3N8b (Type II London Printing set of 6). In the previous post, the Type II stamp is the one in the middle. The stamps from this set are all perforated 14. Types I and III are not.

Identifying Types I and III is easy, when you know what to look for. Here is the solution looking at the right side of the stamp along the right vertical white line of the inner frame.

Type I:
Image Not Found

Type III:
Image Not Found

On Type I, to the left of the "P" and "G", there is only the stamp color on the other side of the line to the right of the ornaments.

On Type III, to the left of the "P" and "G", there are small white shapes on the other side of the line to the right of the ornaments. This appears on all Type III stamps.

There you have it. Nice and easy to identify these three sets of stamps that all look alike.


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michael78651

24 Jun 2016
12:57:14pm

re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

It's been a few years, and we have had many people join since. I thought I would bring this reference post back up for those who may be interested.

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24 Jun 2016
04:43:34pm

re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

I for one appreciate the lesson. Never knew. Thanks Ernie.........

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Jackkelly

10 Aug 2019
10:11:41pm

re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

Just found this thread. A much simpler way to determine the type of printings. Thanks

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HockeyNut

07 Jan 2020
08:01:22am

re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

Well found an article about those stamps from Harry W Wilcke.

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07 Jan 2020
08:30:26pm

re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

I found Michael###s original article early on as a new SOR member and printed it to include with my new album on the postwar stamps once I decided to focus on Germany.

It was and still is invaluable. Many thanks for that contribution Michael!


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07 Jan 2020
08:40:13pm

re: How to Identify Germany AMG Issue Printings

Those are JV Bush pages....might be copyrighted - not sure.

JV Bush, Inc. is a dealer in AMG stamp issues and pages.


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