"amsd":
I am knee-deep in Scott catalogues and share your embarrassment.
Should you share characteristics with my disorganized mind and
"interspersed", you would succumb to the urge to upgrade your
catalogue to the most recent edition.
An aside: this year, for the first time ever, I passed on the opportunity
to purchase five of six volumes of Scott 2012 at two bucks apiece
- a whopper of a bargain.
Join with me and break your addiction.
Recycle.
John Derry
tis a whopper of a deal, you silly old goat, and one this cheapy wouldn't have been able to pass on a dare
"amsd"
I would keep one set of six, but whichever volumes are the newest. I just bought a volume one for 2011. I will give away my 2010 volume one and hope eventually to keep replacing them with newer ones whenever possible. I've had as many as 4 different years at times. As long as I have all six, that's all that matters to me.
My Michel catalogs are like your Scott. When I can get a "newer" edition of any one catalog, I keep it and toss out the older edition. If Scott is your primary catalog, then for me, I would want to keep the newest set complete and not hold older ones in the set.
one thing to consider though is the information that is not added but subtracted. Sadly, there is always something that is dropped or left out due to space, lack of interest or whatever. I have a Y&T from 1939 that is better than the current one for my early Dahomey issues. Hence why this packrat keeps any catalogs I get my hands on. If I am researching or want more than just a basic cat number I can check all issues to see if there is some tidbit to be gleaned from a previous issue.
my 2 cents,
Jere
I'm not a dealer and collect only US so my needs are quite different. I get a new catalog every 3 or 4 years, but I keep old ones for research. I have Scott Specialized US for:
1928
1945
1959
1972
1990
2008
and my "current" one from 2011.
The 1928 Specialized was only the 5th edition, so I also have a Scott Standard from 1905. Plus I have Scott Standard from 1928 and 1945 just to see if there were any differences from the Specialized in the US listings, so I have some historical world info if needed by anyone.
I'm with Jere on that one!
I have hung on to older Scott Catalogues, but I never used them again, so I figured why take up space with them. I usually give them to someone who doesn't have any at all, or to the youth table at our club.
What I do have a lot of are specialized catalogues.
Unitrade Canadian Specialized
Brusden White Specialized for Australia. That's especially for the Roo's and Georges. I think there are about 150 pages devoted to them.
Seven Seas for Australasian
N.V.P.H. Specialized for the Netherlands
Stanley Gibbens for GB
Ceres for France
Japanese Specialized, Can't read the name. It's not in English.
Michel for Germany
South African Specialized Catalogue
Facit for Scandinavia
I like catalogues and reference books as much as I like the stamps themselves.
Most of these catalogues except for Canada, GB and Japan are all older catalogues, but they have so much more information then the Scott Catalogues that I would never part with them. Not even if I got newer ones. They are just too good.
I think that as long as the contents does not change (like Ivory Coast being in volume 3 in one year, but in volume 4 the next year), I would go for the most recent edition of each volume.
Seriously i am currently using Scott 2012 A to Z and Scotts U.S. Specialized from 2008. With the price of the new Scott catalogs i am starting to see the viewpoint of BobGGGG who would rather spend on stamps than catalogs. In the past i have purchased single Scott catalogs for the areas of most interest to me. At this point i am good with the 2012 catalogs !!
so, unless i'm reading this wrong, i didn't really get an answer to my question.
is it preferable, in your opinions, to have
A.... a set of catalogues mixing 2010 and 2011
or
B.... a set of 2010 catalogues
David
I would go for a mix of as recent as possible volumes as well.
I keep all my catalogs, but that was not one of your options. So, if I were only given the 2 options:
"A.... a set of catalogues mixing 2010 and 2011
or
B.... a set of 2010 catalogues"
I am looking for a Scott Vol 4 (J-O) with color pictures.
Well something after 2008. I no longer buy catalogs, I only buy the country pages of the latest issue (sold on ebay) just for the countries I collect. And I consult our Stamp Club reference volumes when in a bind...our stamp clubs updates its catalogs every 2 years, and you can check them out, one at a time.
But I would love to own a reference set with ALL albums in color! and Volume 4 is the last one I need...so I am looking for a discard.
rrr...
From the foregoing I conclude all stamp collectors are fire hazards.
John Derry
Which is why I use Ronsonol for 99% of my watermark detection needs.
and I am a book collector !! I have a house full of dead trees !!!!
I would go with option A. However,Khj has a good point on the change. BTW: John: tell me about it; been there already.
I do not understand why Scott discontinued the catalogs on CD. Guess the profit motive requires killing trees and forcing collectors to take out a 2nd mortgage on their homes to purchase the latest editions. I am still using my 2009 Scott catalog CD (last year they offered it), and occasionally purchase one of the specialized catalogs as my collecting interest lies in pre 1940 WW and general US.
-bobby
Bobby, actually there is a very simple answer to your question. Just do a search on some of the major illegal download sites and you will see that the Scott 2009 catalogues are amply offered over there. The publisher could have tried to make a version that is copy protected (or needs the cd/dvd in the drive to work), but probably that was too much work or too complicated for them.
I called the help desk and asked why they no longer issue CDs. The support service person told me there were too many programming issues and not cost effective for them.
Amos/Scott did put a measure of protection with their CD/DVD discs after 2008; you needed to obtain a one-time use only code to enter upon installation. I changed computers and had to contact Scott to obtain another code to authorize the new installation of my 2009 set; I could load my 2008 catalogue set without any issues, however. So if someone got a pirated copy (or even the original discs that were previously installed on another computer) of 2009 or later discs, they could not load the contents unless they obtained a license code.
So in spite of having this protection in place, Amos/Scott decided to discontinue the discs anyway.
Peter
There are ways to strip out the protection.
Apparently it is very easy to copy the Scott DVD's. I ordered a 2009 set (advertised as genuine, original wrapping, etc), but it came as a set of copies. I returned them but never got a refund.
Roger
PS I do think Scott/Amos should have done/should do whatever is necessary to produce their catalogs on DVD that protects their interests. The iwhatever catalogs are of no use to me since I don't own an iwhatever, so I continue to use my old, Scott original 2007 set on CD. It seems to me that with the escalating prices on paper catalogs and failure to move effectively into digital technology, that Scott (and maybe other catalog companies) are failing to take advantage of an increasingly tech-savvy market.
I recently acquired a complete set of non-specialized Scott catalogues (Volumes 1-6) from 2010.
i have a mix of Scott catalogues, from 2007-2011 (one for each volume).
my question is this: would you keep a complete set of the 2010 or would you intersperse the 2010s and 2011s?
David
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
"amsd":
I am knee-deep in Scott catalogues and share your embarrassment.
Should you share characteristics with my disorganized mind and
"interspersed", you would succumb to the urge to upgrade your
catalogue to the most recent edition.
An aside: this year, for the first time ever, I passed on the opportunity
to purchase five of six volumes of Scott 2012 at two bucks apiece
- a whopper of a bargain.
Join with me and break your addiction.
Recycle.
John Derry
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
tis a whopper of a deal, you silly old goat, and one this cheapy wouldn't have been able to pass on a dare
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
"amsd"
I would keep one set of six, but whichever volumes are the newest. I just bought a volume one for 2011. I will give away my 2010 volume one and hope eventually to keep replacing them with newer ones whenever possible. I've had as many as 4 different years at times. As long as I have all six, that's all that matters to me.
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
My Michel catalogs are like your Scott. When I can get a "newer" edition of any one catalog, I keep it and toss out the older edition. If Scott is your primary catalog, then for me, I would want to keep the newest set complete and not hold older ones in the set.
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
one thing to consider though is the information that is not added but subtracted. Sadly, there is always something that is dropped or left out due to space, lack of interest or whatever. I have a Y&T from 1939 that is better than the current one for my early Dahomey issues. Hence why this packrat keeps any catalogs I get my hands on. If I am researching or want more than just a basic cat number I can check all issues to see if there is some tidbit to be gleaned from a previous issue.
my 2 cents,
Jere
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
I'm not a dealer and collect only US so my needs are quite different. I get a new catalog every 3 or 4 years, but I keep old ones for research. I have Scott Specialized US for:
1928
1945
1959
1972
1990
2008
and my "current" one from 2011.
The 1928 Specialized was only the 5th edition, so I also have a Scott Standard from 1905. Plus I have Scott Standard from 1928 and 1945 just to see if there were any differences from the Specialized in the US listings, so I have some historical world info if needed by anyone.
I'm with Jere on that one!
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
I have hung on to older Scott Catalogues, but I never used them again, so I figured why take up space with them. I usually give them to someone who doesn't have any at all, or to the youth table at our club.
What I do have a lot of are specialized catalogues.
Unitrade Canadian Specialized
Brusden White Specialized for Australia. That's especially for the Roo's and Georges. I think there are about 150 pages devoted to them.
Seven Seas for Australasian
N.V.P.H. Specialized for the Netherlands
Stanley Gibbens for GB
Ceres for France
Japanese Specialized, Can't read the name. It's not in English.
Michel for Germany
South African Specialized Catalogue
Facit for Scandinavia
I like catalogues and reference books as much as I like the stamps themselves.
Most of these catalogues except for Canada, GB and Japan are all older catalogues, but they have so much more information then the Scott Catalogues that I would never part with them. Not even if I got newer ones. They are just too good.
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
I think that as long as the contents does not change (like Ivory Coast being in volume 3 in one year, but in volume 4 the next year), I would go for the most recent edition of each volume.
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
Seriously i am currently using Scott 2012 A to Z and Scotts U.S. Specialized from 2008. With the price of the new Scott catalogs i am starting to see the viewpoint of BobGGGG who would rather spend on stamps than catalogs. In the past i have purchased single Scott catalogs for the areas of most interest to me. At this point i am good with the 2012 catalogs !!
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
so, unless i'm reading this wrong, i didn't really get an answer to my question.
is it preferable, in your opinions, to have
A.... a set of catalogues mixing 2010 and 2011
or
B.... a set of 2010 catalogues
David
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
I would go for a mix of as recent as possible volumes as well.
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
I keep all my catalogs, but that was not one of your options. So, if I were only given the 2 options:
"A.... a set of catalogues mixing 2010 and 2011
or
B.... a set of 2010 catalogues"
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
I am looking for a Scott Vol 4 (J-O) with color pictures.
Well something after 2008. I no longer buy catalogs, I only buy the country pages of the latest issue (sold on ebay) just for the countries I collect. And I consult our Stamp Club reference volumes when in a bind...our stamp clubs updates its catalogs every 2 years, and you can check them out, one at a time.
But I would love to own a reference set with ALL albums in color! and Volume 4 is the last one I need...so I am looking for a discard.
rrr...
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
From the foregoing I conclude all stamp collectors are fire hazards.
John Derry
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
Which is why I use Ronsonol for 99% of my watermark detection needs.
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
and I am a book collector !! I have a house full of dead trees !!!!
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
I do not understand why Scott discontinued the catalogs on CD. Guess the profit motive requires killing trees and forcing collectors to take out a 2nd mortgage on their homes to purchase the latest editions. I am still using my 2009 Scott catalog CD (last year they offered it), and occasionally purchase one of the specialized catalogs as my collecting interest lies in pre 1940 WW and general US.
-bobby
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
Bobby, actually there is a very simple answer to your question. Just do a search on some of the major illegal download sites and you will see that the Scott 2009 catalogues are amply offered over there. The publisher could have tried to make a version that is copy protected (or needs the cd/dvd in the drive to work), but probably that was too much work or too complicated for them.
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
I called the help desk and asked why they no longer issue CDs. The support service person told me there were too many programming issues and not cost effective for them.
Amos/Scott did put a measure of protection with their CD/DVD discs after 2008; you needed to obtain a one-time use only code to enter upon installation. I changed computers and had to contact Scott to obtain another code to authorize the new installation of my 2009 set; I could load my 2008 catalogue set without any issues, however. So if someone got a pirated copy (or even the original discs that were previously installed on another computer) of 2009 or later discs, they could not load the contents unless they obtained a license code.
So in spite of having this protection in place, Amos/Scott decided to discontinue the discs anyway.
Peter
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
There are ways to strip out the protection.
re: help with my Scott Catalogues
Apparently it is very easy to copy the Scott DVD's. I ordered a 2009 set (advertised as genuine, original wrapping, etc), but it came as a set of copies. I returned them but never got a refund.
Roger
PS I do think Scott/Amos should have done/should do whatever is necessary to produce their catalogs on DVD that protects their interests. The iwhatever catalogs are of no use to me since I don't own an iwhatever, so I continue to use my old, Scott original 2007 set on CD. It seems to me that with the escalating prices on paper catalogs and failure to move effectively into digital technology, that Scott (and maybe other catalog companies) are failing to take advantage of an increasingly tech-savvy market.