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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Found among Palestine stamps: ID please

 

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cocollectibles

10 Jan 2014
09:04:32am
These two were found among a small group of Palestine stamps,in a larger Brit Comm carton I was going through. I can't find these in Scott under Palestine or Israel. Can someone identify them for me please? I think they may be revenues. Are the cancels postal or revenue?

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10 Jan 2014
01:22:44pm
re: Found among Palestine stamps: ID please

I think these may be some of the fore-runner stamp issues of Israel.

The Jewish National Fund stamps were the first "Israeli" postage stamps. Prior to that Palestine stamps were in usage. When the country transitioned from Palestine to Israel, the Jewish National Fund stamps that had been in production since 1902 (not as postage) to raise money for the JNF, were then used as Israel postage stamps until Israeli stamps began to be produced.

The JNF labels were given a Hebrew overprint meaning postage (doar) The JNF stamps were printed from May 3 to 14, 1948 their sale ended on May 14, 1948, with remaining stocks ordered to be returned and destroyed.

Use of these stamps was tolerated until May 22, 1948.

Since Jerusalem was under Siege its residents continued to use JNF stamps until June 20, 1948, whereupon Israeli stamps reached the city. These stamps, overprinted with a JNF seal, bore a map of the UN Partition Plan.


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10 Jan 2014
03:19:10pm
re: Found among Palestine stamps: ID please

Excellent Terry ! Thumbs Up

The 'Jewish State' issue of 1948 is one of the most fascinating JNF labels. The various types of overprint make it more so.
A number of different printings produced different shades, some errors and there were gummed and ungummed.
The 'Doar' overprint as shown in the original post comes in (I believe) 5 types. I will check and get back on that one.
Peter showed different shades and overprints, both spacing and print. The violet marking on the left stamp is also interesting, which I will check too.

The siege of Jerusalem was ended with the help of a US Military man, David 'Mickey' Marcus who became an advisor to the fledgling Israel Army in 1947, under the assumed name, Michael Stone. He was made the first General of the Israel Army in 2000 years but was sadly killed by friendly fire just before the ceasefire in June 1948. He died a hero in the eyes of the people of the new Jewish state.
He was the first US soldier to be buried at West Point having died while fighting for a foreign country.

In the 1960's, Kirk Douglas portrayed Marcus in the Hollywood blockbuster 'Cast a Giant Shadow'.
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10 Jan 2014
03:39:42pm
re: Found among Palestine stamps: ID please

JNF labels overprinted for postal use were cancelled with the an Interim Government Rubber stamp (Minhelet Ha'am) with 'Post' and the city, in this case Jerusalem.
A handstamped date in Violet,Red,Blue or black was added and I believe different examples exist on Peter's labels.
The right stamp clearly shows a 'May' handstamp in black but I cannot decipher the Violet on the left stamp.



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cocollectibles

10 Jan 2014
09:04:32am

These two were found among a small group of Palestine stamps,in a larger Brit Comm carton I was going through. I can't find these in Scott under Palestine or Israel. Can someone identify them for me please? I think they may be revenues. Are the cancels postal or revenue?

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Peter
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10 Jan 2014
01:22:44pm

re: Found among Palestine stamps: ID please

I think these may be some of the fore-runner stamp issues of Israel.

The Jewish National Fund stamps were the first "Israeli" postage stamps. Prior to that Palestine stamps were in usage. When the country transitioned from Palestine to Israel, the Jewish National Fund stamps that had been in production since 1902 (not as postage) to raise money for the JNF, were then used as Israel postage stamps until Israeli stamps began to be produced.

The JNF labels were given a Hebrew overprint meaning postage (doar) The JNF stamps were printed from May 3 to 14, 1948 their sale ended on May 14, 1948, with remaining stocks ordered to be returned and destroyed.

Use of these stamps was tolerated until May 22, 1948.

Since Jerusalem was under Siege its residents continued to use JNF stamps until June 20, 1948, whereupon Israeli stamps reached the city. These stamps, overprinted with a JNF seal, bore a map of the UN Partition Plan.


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10 Jan 2014
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re: Found among Palestine stamps: ID please

Excellent Terry ! Thumbs Up

The 'Jewish State' issue of 1948 is one of the most fascinating JNF labels. The various types of overprint make it more so.
A number of different printings produced different shades, some errors and there were gummed and ungummed.
The 'Doar' overprint as shown in the original post comes in (I believe) 5 types. I will check and get back on that one.
Peter showed different shades and overprints, both spacing and print. The violet marking on the left stamp is also interesting, which I will check too.

The siege of Jerusalem was ended with the help of a US Military man, David 'Mickey' Marcus who became an advisor to the fledgling Israel Army in 1947, under the assumed name, Michael Stone. He was made the first General of the Israel Army in 2000 years but was sadly killed by friendly fire just before the ceasefire in June 1948. He died a hero in the eyes of the people of the new Jewish state.
He was the first US soldier to be buried at West Point having died while fighting for a foreign country.

In the 1960's, Kirk Douglas portrayed Marcus in the Hollywood blockbuster 'Cast a Giant Shadow'.
Londonbus1


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10 Jan 2014
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re: Found among Palestine stamps: ID please

JNF labels overprinted for postal use were cancelled with the an Interim Government Rubber stamp (Minhelet Ha'am) with 'Post' and the city, in this case Jerusalem.
A handstamped date in Violet,Red,Blue or black was added and I believe different examples exist on Peter's labels.
The right stamp clearly shows a 'May' handstamp in black but I cannot decipher the Violet on the left stamp.



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