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Asia/China : People's Republic of China

 

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Bobstamp
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03 Apr 2014
11:17:09am
This stamp, apparently from the People's Republic of China, seems to commemorate an Islamic resistance movement, perhaps the Algerian War against France, but I haven't been able to find anything remotely like it in my Scott catalogue. Can anyone help? (An inscription at the bottom right seems to be "1962" but even with high magnification I can't be certain. The "52.2-2" might be a date as well, but I am not very familiar with modern China stamps.

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03 Apr 2014
11:19:49am
re: People's Republic of China

In the Scott catalog, China (PRC) #619(20Jul1962).

52 is the "special" set number.
2-2 means it is the 2nd of 2 stamps in the set.

The set numbers vary depending on type of stamp issue. These are sometimes distinguished by the character or letter in front of the set number (sort of like Scott catalog prefixes). The character in front of the 52, "te" means special = hence, "special issue".

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03 Apr 2014
01:12:45pm
re: People's Republic of China

Thanks very much, khj. Applause Once again, I've learned something new about stamps. Can there be a more "information dense" hobby than philately?

FYI, this stamp fits nicely into my "Vietnam War" collection, which really is a collection about the modern history of Vietnam. An interesting thing I've learned is that many French soldiers who fought at Dien Bien Phu, that battle that brought about the end of the French colonial period, were repatriated following a brutal imprisonment and were sent to Algeria. And the People's Republic, of course, supported both North Vietnam and the Algerian Liberation Front.

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The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.

03 Apr 2014
01:32:45pm
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Well said, Bob, postage stamps are saturated in "data" and
make computer chips look like stone axes.

Stamp collecting should be a job requirement for every world leader.

As a geriatric student of the Second World War, I like to believe that
FDR's stamp collecting hobby reinforced his global vision, despite the
strong isolationist sentiment that existed in the USA; kept his line of
communication open with Churchill, despite Winnie's efforts at
British Empire damage control; and obliquely, but practically, had the USA
better prepared for that day of Japan's infamy.

Please post on Stamporama a submission or two on your
Vietnam War collection.

John Derry

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samliu

03 Apr 2014
01:48:41pm
re: People's Republic of China

Bob:
PRC has another two sets of stamps to support Vietnam liberation and Vietnam war.

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samliu

03 Apr 2014
02:22:26pm
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samliu

03 Apr 2014
02:24:04pm
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03 Apr 2014
02:26:24pm
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All these stamps from 60s, 70s are very expensive.

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03 Apr 2014
03:57:55pm
re: People's Republic of China

...unless you bought them from the post office.

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03 Apr 2014
11:09:28pm
re: People's Republic of China

Thank you all! It turns out that I have the following stamps that samliu posted, in both mint and CTO copies:

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There is another PRC stamp issued in support of a united Vietnam that samliu didn't post; I have in a used copy:

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It seems to have been one of a sort of omnibus issue. Here's a similar stamp issued by Czechoslovakia:

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Does anyone know if Cuba or any other communist country issued stamps similar to these "omnibus" stamps?

Bob

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03 Apr 2014
11:32:03pm
re: People's Republic of China

Here's a copy of a North Korean stamp issued in support of the Vietnamese communists:

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And three Cuban stamps protesting American "genocide" in Vietnam:

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The charge of "genocide" is a over the top, but the use of herbicides in Vietnam was absolutely a form of chemical warfare that should never have been used. The navy corpsman who gave me first aid after I was wounded died years ago; his lung cancer was almost certainly caused by exposure to Agent Orange. He told me that he and the marines in his company used to purposely stand in the open when herbicides were being dropped because the droplets felt like cool rain.

Bob

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04 Apr 2014
03:12:24pm
re: People's Republic of China

I cannot in good conscience condone the careless use of Agent Orange and the failure to remove both our troops as well as the Vietnamese from areas to be sprayed.
However except for my first trip up the river to Saigon it's result on the jungle alongside the river made the voyage safer.
The first trip was through a dense jungle that not only came to the river's edge but overhung the first several feet of water. After Agent Orange did its work the mudflats that stretched for a mile or more on either side and made it virtually impossible for an ambush and eliminated stray sniper activity.
I have no real way to decide if our safety balances the harm done to poorly informed troops but its application did the job (At least along the rivers edges.) that was intended.
It becomes especially difficult when confronted with the years of harm some suffered.

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03 Apr 2014
11:17:09am

This stamp, apparently from the People's Republic of China, seems to commemorate an Islamic resistance movement, perhaps the Algerian War against France, but I haven't been able to find anything remotely like it in my Scott catalogue. Can anyone help? (An inscription at the bottom right seems to be "1962" but even with high magnification I can't be certain. The "52.2-2" might be a date as well, but I am not very familiar with modern China stamps.

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03 Apr 2014
11:19:49am

re: People's Republic of China

In the Scott catalog, China (PRC) #619(20Jul1962).

52 is the "special" set number.
2-2 means it is the 2nd of 2 stamps in the set.

The set numbers vary depending on type of stamp issue. These are sometimes distinguished by the character or letter in front of the set number (sort of like Scott catalog prefixes). The character in front of the 52, "te" means special = hence, "special issue".

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03 Apr 2014
01:12:45pm

re: People's Republic of China

Thanks very much, khj. Applause Once again, I've learned something new about stamps. Can there be a more "information dense" hobby than philately?

FYI, this stamp fits nicely into my "Vietnam War" collection, which really is a collection about the modern history of Vietnam. An interesting thing I've learned is that many French soldiers who fought at Dien Bien Phu, that battle that brought about the end of the French colonial period, were repatriated following a brutal imprisonment and were sent to Algeria. And the People's Republic, of course, supported both North Vietnam and the Algerian Liberation Front.

Bob

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The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.
03 Apr 2014
01:32:45pm

re: People's Republic of China

Well said, Bob, postage stamps are saturated in "data" and
make computer chips look like stone axes.

Stamp collecting should be a job requirement for every world leader.

As a geriatric student of the Second World War, I like to believe that
FDR's stamp collecting hobby reinforced his global vision, despite the
strong isolationist sentiment that existed in the USA; kept his line of
communication open with Churchill, despite Winnie's efforts at
British Empire damage control; and obliquely, but practically, had the USA
better prepared for that day of Japan's infamy.

Please post on Stamporama a submission or two on your
Vietnam War collection.

John Derry

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"Much happiness is overlooked because it doesn't cost anything. "

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samliu

03 Apr 2014
01:48:41pm

re: People's Republic of China

Bob:
PRC has another two sets of stamps to support Vietnam liberation and Vietnam war.

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samliu

03 Apr 2014
02:22:26pm

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03 Apr 2014
02:24:04pm

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samliu

03 Apr 2014
02:26:24pm

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Albania:
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All these stamps from 60s, 70s are very expensive.

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khj

03 Apr 2014
03:57:55pm

re: People's Republic of China

...unless you bought them from the post office.

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Bobstamp

03 Apr 2014
11:09:28pm

re: People's Republic of China

Thank you all! It turns out that I have the following stamps that samliu posted, in both mint and CTO copies:

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There is another PRC stamp issued in support of a united Vietnam that samliu didn't post; I have in a used copy:

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It seems to have been one of a sort of omnibus issue. Here's a similar stamp issued by Czechoslovakia:

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Does anyone know if Cuba or any other communist country issued stamps similar to these "omnibus" stamps?

Bob

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Bobstamp

03 Apr 2014
11:32:03pm

re: People's Republic of China

Here's a copy of a North Korean stamp issued in support of the Vietnamese communists:

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And three Cuban stamps protesting American "genocide" in Vietnam:

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The charge of "genocide" is a over the top, but the use of herbicides in Vietnam was absolutely a form of chemical warfare that should never have been used. The navy corpsman who gave me first aid after I was wounded died years ago; his lung cancer was almost certainly caused by exposure to Agent Orange. He told me that he and the marines in his company used to purposely stand in the open when herbicides were being dropped because the droplets felt like cool rain.

Bob

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
04 Apr 2014
03:12:24pm

re: People's Republic of China

I cannot in good conscience condone the careless use of Agent Orange and the failure to remove both our troops as well as the Vietnamese from areas to be sprayed.
However except for my first trip up the river to Saigon it's result on the jungle alongside the river made the voyage safer.
The first trip was through a dense jungle that not only came to the river's edge but overhung the first several feet of water. After Agent Orange did its work the mudflats that stretched for a mile or more on either side and made it virtually impossible for an ambush and eliminated stray sniper activity.
I have no real way to decide if our safety balances the harm done to poorly informed troops but its application did the job (At least along the rivers edges.) that was intended.
It becomes especially difficult when confronted with the years of harm some suffered.

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