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General Philatelic/Supplies, Literature & Software : Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International

 

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michael78651

02 Nov 2014
10:15:30am
For you air mail collectors, I found someone on eBay selling a Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International. The title page says it contains spaces for every air mail stamp issued up to 1931. Album looks to be in good shape, shipping is ridiculous, but maybe you could talk him down on that. If you are interested, just copy the title to this post and go to eBay. Do a paste in the search bar and you should find it.

Not sure if this post is "legal". This is not a common item, so I wanted to let air mail collectors know that one is available. I do not know the seller. I would post a direct link, but not sure if that is allowed. Bobby, could you help on the rules for this, please?
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02 Nov 2014
11:07:20am
re: Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International

Rules are kind of fuzzy here. Its not your stuff, so the self promotion rules do not apply. And since you didn't post a link, I think the no advertising rule is iffy. Furthermore, as this is a potential benefit to a members, with no "dog in the hunt" for you, I think it is OK.

I didn't have to type all this; I could have just said OK. But I wanted members to see that moderators really do not have a cut and dried pathway to enforcement of rules, and we really want what is best for the DB and SOR's members. This is one of the easier decisions, it is often not this simple. And sometimes we just err - but we try.Happy

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michael78651

02 Nov 2014
11:41:12am
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Thanks, Bobby.

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02 Nov 2014
03:54:08pm
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The no advertizing rule really has no bearing here, but it still is a spam message. I am sure, whoever is in the market for a "Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International" album will look for it in the right places. So what is the point? I could re-post the entire ebay inventory "For you xxxx collectors, I found someone on ebay selling yyyy ..."


Just posting my opinion that I don't think we should make this a new trend.

Arno

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03 Nov 2014
12:24:32am
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Arno, I agree with you that such posts should not be for "run of the mill" items, or inventory lists as you eluded to. If, however, someone finds something elusive that may be of interest to members, wouldn't it be a good thing to let them know, like the special sale on the brand new Scott catalog set or a hard to find album? It's just a helpful notification to the membership. If it helps someone in their hobby interests, I see no harm in it.

I belong to the New Haven Railroad Historical Association. Members there regularly post about new models coming out for the New Haven Railroad, and also when a special item is found on sites like eBay. I have been able to find and purchase several elusive items that I was looking for from those posts. The "run of the mill" items are not posted on the association's site either.

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03 Nov 2014
01:43:59pm
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To me, one of the benefits of belonging to Stamporama or to any stamp club is the exposure to collectibles or sources for collectibles that I wasn't aware of.

In my wanderings through yesterday's discussions, I came across one about some European airmail-related cinderellas that a member couldn't identify. Another member responded, and added a link to a company in New Zealand that was selling the same set. Out of curiosity, I visited that web site and hit what was for me a small vein of philatelic gold. In a half-hour of browsing, I chose four cinderellas which I can use to further illustrate some of my current web pages or to illustrate potential web pages. Here they are, with brief comments about how I will be able to use them:

Cinderella #1 (China Relief): I am in the final stages of writing a web page about the hiring of Chinese labourers in a BC pulp mill to replace Japanese Canadians who were interned during the war. One of the reasons that the Chinese were hired, when previously the mill had mostly ignored them, was that China had become one of the Allied nations fighting against the Axis. The small print at the bottom of the cinderella reads, "RELIEF COMMITTEE FOR WAR SUFFERERS IN CHINA".

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Cinderella #2 (Stamp Out 5th Column in America): In the years before the Second World War, isolationist Americans began to see a "5th Column," consisting of fascists, socialists, and/or communists, behind every tree. This cinderella would fit into several different web pages concerning some of Americas wars and military excursions, including the Philippine War, the Vietnam War, the Korean the Cold War, the Battle of Dien Bien Phu, and an historic strike in a New Mexico zinc mine.

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Cinderella #3 (Bataan Prisoners): When I was in high school, I worked for a pharmacist who had survived the Bataan Death March, which had been a small disaster for my home town of Silver City, NM. Our local National Guard Unit had been nationalized before the war and sent to the Philippines. All of men were either killed by the Japanese or became POWS and subsequently died during the Bataan Death March or in subsequent imprisonment. The pharmacist's father, also a pharmacist, installed a flagpole at the main intersection in downtown Silver City and vowed to raise and lower the flag every day until his son came home, and he did. I have postcards showing that intersection before and after the flag pole was installed. What a great collateral item this Cinderella will make for that web page when I get around to doing it.

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Cinderella #4 (Pan-American Exhibition of 1901): The United States has long prided itself on its record of opposing colonialism of any kind, but from the early days of its existence imposed its will on and has occupied several different nations and areas, including Texas (which belonged to Mexico) in the Mexican-American War of 1846-48. Then there were the Indian Wars that lasted from the arrival of the first colonists (!) until 1890, the the Spanish-American War (1898), and the Philippine War (1899-1902). Along the way it bullied its way into Hawaii, occupied various islands in the Pacific, browbeat Panama into allowing the construction and control of the Panama Canal. I would like to do web pages on "America's Little Wars," as well as one on worldwide colonialism. There are many stamps issued by former colonial powers which clearly show the extent and power of the colonial powers. This particular Cinderella shows North, South, and Central America as partners in the Pan-American Exhibition of 1901, but also shows Cuba, Hawaii, and the Philippines as American "territory". A more accurate term would be "protectorate," in the sense of Germany's "protection" of Czechoslovakia.

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This thread reminds me a former member of my stamp club, who came to meetings only to see if he could buy stamps for his collection of mint Canadian stamps. It was a challenge, because the only stamps that he didn't have were worth thousands of dollars. He lasted only a year or so, because we "never had anything" for him. He was quite scornful of everything else that everyone else collected.

I don't collect 99.9 per cent of the material that other members collect, but I'm always open to new knowledge and new ideas about collecting, and I'm always on the lookout for good on-line stamp shops. If the member who posted his question about his airmail Cinderellas had been more cautious, and not posted his post out of concern that it might be viewed as spam, I never would have known about Warwick Jost, the New Zealand company that was selling the Cinderellas I bought and eagerly look forward to receiving.

Bob




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03 Nov 2014
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just out of curiosity, Bob, what was the NM unit?

I have a RTS, service suspended letter to a soldier in the 200th FA (or maybe it was an anti-aircraft unit); they had just been converted to artillery from Cavalry and sent to PI.


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03 Nov 2014
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All of the New Mexico National Guardsmen sent to the Philippines were members of the the 200th Coast Artillery Regiment, which my boss, pharmacist Bobby Jackson, Jr., was a member of. Most of the members of the unit were Mexican Americans and apparently their fluency with Spanish was what got them sent to the Philippines. 1,800 New Mexicans were sent to the Philippines, but only 800 returned.

The 200th was an anti-aircraft (AA) unit, later renamed as a Field Artillery (FA unit). See this brief history of the unit.

I'd love to see your cover.

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03 Nov 2014
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i'll track her down and show her to you. I had always intended on doing a write up of it and the soldier who, like many, did not return.

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michael78651

02 Nov 2014
10:15:30am

For you air mail collectors, I found someone on eBay selling a Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International. The title page says it contains spaces for every air mail stamp issued up to 1931. Album looks to be in good shape, shipping is ridiculous, but maybe you could talk him down on that. If you are interested, just copy the title to this post and go to eBay. Do a paste in the search bar and you should find it.

Not sure if this post is "legal". This is not a common item, so I wanted to let air mail collectors know that one is available. I do not know the seller. I would post a direct link, but not sure if that is allowed. Bobby, could you help on the rules for this, please?

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02 Nov 2014
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re: Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International

Rules are kind of fuzzy here. Its not your stuff, so the self promotion rules do not apply. And since you didn't post a link, I think the no advertising rule is iffy. Furthermore, as this is a potential benefit to a members, with no "dog in the hunt" for you, I think it is OK.

I didn't have to type all this; I could have just said OK. But I wanted members to see that moderators really do not have a cut and dried pathway to enforcement of rules, and we really want what is best for the DB and SOR's members. This is one of the easier decisions, it is often not this simple. And sometimes we just err - but we try.Happy

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michael78651

02 Nov 2014
11:41:12am

re: Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International

Thanks, Bobby.

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02 Nov 2014
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re: Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International

The no advertizing rule really has no bearing here, but it still is a spam message. I am sure, whoever is in the market for a "Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International" album will look for it in the right places. So what is the point? I could re-post the entire ebay inventory "For you xxxx collectors, I found someone on ebay selling yyyy ..."


Just posting my opinion that I don't think we should make this a new trend.

Arno

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03 Nov 2014
12:24:32am

re: Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International

Arno, I agree with you that such posts should not be for "run of the mill" items, or inventory lists as you eluded to. If, however, someone finds something elusive that may be of interest to members, wouldn't it be a good thing to let them know, like the special sale on the brand new Scott catalog set or a hard to find album? It's just a helpful notification to the membership. If it helps someone in their hobby interests, I see no harm in it.

I belong to the New Haven Railroad Historical Association. Members there regularly post about new models coming out for the New Haven Railroad, and also when a special item is found on sites like eBay. I have been able to find and purchase several elusive items that I was looking for from those posts. The "run of the mill" items are not posted on the association's site either.

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03 Nov 2014
01:43:59pm

re: Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International

To me, one of the benefits of belonging to Stamporama or to any stamp club is the exposure to collectibles or sources for collectibles that I wasn't aware of.

In my wanderings through yesterday's discussions, I came across one about some European airmail-related cinderellas that a member couldn't identify. Another member responded, and added a link to a company in New Zealand that was selling the same set. Out of curiosity, I visited that web site and hit what was for me a small vein of philatelic gold. In a half-hour of browsing, I chose four cinderellas which I can use to further illustrate some of my current web pages or to illustrate potential web pages. Here they are, with brief comments about how I will be able to use them:

Cinderella #1 (China Relief): I am in the final stages of writing a web page about the hiring of Chinese labourers in a BC pulp mill to replace Japanese Canadians who were interned during the war. One of the reasons that the Chinese were hired, when previously the mill had mostly ignored them, was that China had become one of the Allied nations fighting against the Axis. The small print at the bottom of the cinderella reads, "RELIEF COMMITTEE FOR WAR SUFFERERS IN CHINA".

Image Not Found

Cinderella #2 (Stamp Out 5th Column in America): In the years before the Second World War, isolationist Americans began to see a "5th Column," consisting of fascists, socialists, and/or communists, behind every tree. This cinderella would fit into several different web pages concerning some of Americas wars and military excursions, including the Philippine War, the Vietnam War, the Korean the Cold War, the Battle of Dien Bien Phu, and an historic strike in a New Mexico zinc mine.

Image Not Found

Cinderella #3 (Bataan Prisoners): When I was in high school, I worked for a pharmacist who had survived the Bataan Death March, which had been a small disaster for my home town of Silver City, NM. Our local National Guard Unit had been nationalized before the war and sent to the Philippines. All of men were either killed by the Japanese or became POWS and subsequently died during the Bataan Death March or in subsequent imprisonment. The pharmacist's father, also a pharmacist, installed a flagpole at the main intersection in downtown Silver City and vowed to raise and lower the flag every day until his son came home, and he did. I have postcards showing that intersection before and after the flag pole was installed. What a great collateral item this Cinderella will make for that web page when I get around to doing it.

Image Not Found

Cinderella #4 (Pan-American Exhibition of 1901): The United States has long prided itself on its record of opposing colonialism of any kind, but from the early days of its existence imposed its will on and has occupied several different nations and areas, including Texas (which belonged to Mexico) in the Mexican-American War of 1846-48. Then there were the Indian Wars that lasted from the arrival of the first colonists (!) until 1890, the the Spanish-American War (1898), and the Philippine War (1899-1902). Along the way it bullied its way into Hawaii, occupied various islands in the Pacific, browbeat Panama into allowing the construction and control of the Panama Canal. I would like to do web pages on "America's Little Wars," as well as one on worldwide colonialism. There are many stamps issued by former colonial powers which clearly show the extent and power of the colonial powers. This particular Cinderella shows North, South, and Central America as partners in the Pan-American Exhibition of 1901, but also shows Cuba, Hawaii, and the Philippines as American "territory". A more accurate term would be "protectorate," in the sense of Germany's "protection" of Czechoslovakia.

Image Not Found

This thread reminds me a former member of my stamp club, who came to meetings only to see if he could buy stamps for his collection of mint Canadian stamps. It was a challenge, because the only stamps that he didn't have were worth thousands of dollars. He lasted only a year or so, because we "never had anything" for him. He was quite scornful of everything else that everyone else collected.

I don't collect 99.9 per cent of the material that other members collect, but I'm always open to new knowledge and new ideas about collecting, and I'm always on the lookout for good on-line stamp shops. If the member who posted his question about his airmail Cinderellas had been more cautious, and not posted his post out of concern that it might be viewed as spam, I never would have known about Warwick Jost, the New Zealand company that was selling the Cinderellas I bought and eagerly look forward to receiving.

Bob




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re: Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International

just out of curiosity, Bob, what was the NM unit?

I have a RTS, service suspended letter to a soldier in the 200th FA (or maybe it was an anti-aircraft unit); they had just been converted to artillery from Cavalry and sent to PI.


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03 Nov 2014
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re: Vintage Scott Air Post Album - 1931 - Airmail International

All of the New Mexico National Guardsmen sent to the Philippines were members of the the 200th Coast Artillery Regiment, which my boss, pharmacist Bobby Jackson, Jr., was a member of. Most of the members of the unit were Mexican Americans and apparently their fluency with Spanish was what got them sent to the Philippines. 1,800 New Mexicans were sent to the Philippines, but only 800 returned.

The 200th was an anti-aircraft (AA) unit, later renamed as a Field Artillery (FA unit). See this brief history of the unit.

I'd love to see your cover.

Bob


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i'll track her down and show her to you. I had always intended on doing a write up of it and the soldier who, like many, did not return.

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