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NanaNancy
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28 Sep 2015
09:23:18pm
I’m in the process of creating my first approval book – I’m putting the stamps on Vario pages and will then scan them. I’m wondering about the mechanics of putting an item number with each stamp. Many of the books I’ve seen have computer-generated numbers. Do you do this in a photo editing program after scanning the pages, or does Stamporama have a system to do that for you when you enter the pages into their system? I’ve started just cutting out little cardboard squares and numbering them before I scan, but if there’s an easier way I’d love to know how. If this topic has already been covered, maybe you can just steer me to the correct discussion thread. Many thanks for any advice you can offer!
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michael78651

28 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

The following link will take you to a free download page where you can download and print out a sheet with number squares from 1 to 50. I use these for stock pages. I also use the StampoRama templates with various configurations with pre-numbered boxes.

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28 Sep 2015
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29 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

I use Vario pages myself and scan them. I run them through Jasc (like photoshop) where I number them. I then take the numbered pages and pass them through Media Impression where I trim them. I could do that with Jasc, but its easier with Media Impression

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29 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

I insert numbers after scanning using a photo editing program. I tried making my own numbers before with pieces of paper, but it always ended up looking messy. I don't use the template pages because I don't want to hinge the stamps to the pages. The downside of numbering the pages with a photo editing program is you don't have the numbers in front of you when you go to remove stamps for buyers. What I do is I go to the books that I posted on Stamporama, so I can see the numbers and remove the correct stamps.

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29 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

I only sell covers so I printed the SOR page with two spaces onto green card stock. I don't write on or change this page at all. In fact, three books later I'm using the same sheet. I just put two covers onto the sheet and scan it. Then I use a photo program called Irfanview to add text to the page. I'll add page description and number, add a description of each cover.

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michael78651

29 Sep 2015
02:56:36pm
re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

"I don't use the template pages because I don't want to hinge the stamps to the pages."



Same here when I started out with the approval books. I used black stock pages. Then I ran across a bunch of clear pre-cut mounts (opened on three sides). I attached the mounts in each square to the template pages that I wanted to use. The pages are now "hingeless". I write catalog numbers and condition in pencil in each block. When I close a book, I remove the unsold stamps, erase the pencil markings and start anew.
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30 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

I guess I am doing it the lazy and easiest way. 99% of the stamps I sell in Approval Books have been previously hinged either from albums, stock books or old dealer approval books. Therefore - I just took the standard approval template that was available - make copies as I need them and hinge the stamps onto the pages. I simply just scan the pages and post. Of course if I have some MNH items (like sometimes I do with auctions here) - I would scan them stamp by stamp and would not even think of hinging them and not put them up as approvals. When I need to re-issue the book I just fill in the available spaces - re-scan and post. I guess with the volume of stamps I am selling here - I am not sure I would be able to do this any other way.

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30 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Well, you got to do it the way it works best for you and the material that you are offering.

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30 Sep 2015
06:20:45pm
re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Many thanks for everyone’s suggestions! I experimented yesterday and found a way to just drag numbers over to each stamp while I'm trimming and editing the scan in a publishing program I have. Much easier than cutting out those little pieces of paper! It's true that I don't then have the numbers on the actual page for easy reference, but I will be keeping digital copies of the books in a dedicated folder so I should be able to readily look them up.

Charlie, I did have a few questions about just how crazy you were when I first saw your comment about the 18-wheeler and had no clue what you were talking about, but after looking at Michael’s number chart my faith in your sanity has been restored. Thanks for a good chuckle!

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02 Oct 2015
06:54:47am
re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Hi Guys,

Seems every one does it differently - All good of course.

I scan a page of stamps @ 300 DPI then adjust the brightness etc.., crop the image to reduce the size to 150DPI and 600pixels wide - I think this is a good size for viewing, uploading and also for manipulation of the image full size.

I then add the numbers using Photoshop (on my desktop) or Pixlemator (on my Lap top).

Then save as a jpg and I'm done.

All that sounds complex, but it is easy when you do a few....

The above I am happy with....

But my problem comes with a simpler storage solution, I also do not like hinges so - I just keep the stamps off each Approval Book page (up to say 40) together in a copy safe "Slide holder" 15 pages of stamps per (copy safe) page.

Problem with this method is: All the stamps for one page must be removed from the "slide" pocket to find the ones that are sold and later, resisting the un-sold ones may be a bit time consuming.

I'm thinking that Greg (soundcrest) has a better answer with the vario pages or maybe a stock book could be used - This would make for easy removal of sold stamps and easier restocking. ( I Guess ).

Cheers

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michael78651

02 Oct 2015
10:24:37am
re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Steve, I used to do similar like you with storing the stamps after the approval book was posted. That turned out to be a nightmare. Now I keep the stamps on the numbered pages and put the pages in a three-ring binder. Each approval book is separated by dividers. SOOOOOOOO much easier and saves SOOOOOOOOO much time fulfilling orders. The only draw back is the space needed if you have many approval books posted, but I can live with that problem!

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02 Oct 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Hi michael78651,

All solutions are a compromise in some way - the trade off for me is Storage space against Time.

I'm retired and away from my home as much as I am at home so the Storage space is important to me and the time not so important.

I still like your idea of storage (as well as others) I will try it and see if it is good for me.Confused

Cheers

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02 Oct 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

I tried putting the numbers on the page with software, but it took me longer than the time it takes me use the slips of paper. I must be a glacially slow programmer!

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02 Oct 2015
04:55:11pm
re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

" I must be a glacially slow programmer! "



You're not the Lone Ranger in that regard!

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02 Oct 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

@ Theresa;

You probably just need more intuitive (easy to use) software.... Thinking
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03 Oct 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Hi Guys,

I find the "numbers" is the easy bit... But then I have been doing numbers since 1984..Thumbs Up

Cheers

Stevo

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03 Oct 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Hi Tusken,

Do you mean.... Get a Mac..Big Grin

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Check out this thread... About pixelmator..

http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=8925#62541

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03 Oct 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Hi Stevo;

"Hi Tusken,

Do you mean.... Get a Mac.."



Not necessarily, but PC software is noted for being very obtuse and unnecessarily hard to use.

Most programmers unfortunately never use the software they create. Therefore they have no
clue as to what features are useful, and which ones are unnecessary and just bloat the appli-
cation's size and make it slow.

Probably some of the best software comes from shareware developers, who program to solve
a problem rather than trying to make big bucks.

Probably the reason that this site is so fast and works so well! Sorry if off topic tho....

Just my 2¢....
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28 Sep 2015
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I’m in the process of creating my first approval book – I’m putting the stamps on Vario pages and will then scan them. I’m wondering about the mechanics of putting an item number with each stamp. Many of the books I’ve seen have computer-generated numbers. Do you do this in a photo editing program after scanning the pages, or does Stamporama have a system to do that for you when you enter the pages into their system? I’ve started just cutting out little cardboard squares and numbering them before I scan, but if there’s an easier way I’d love to know how. If this topic has already been covered, maybe you can just steer me to the correct discussion thread. Many thanks for any advice you can offer!

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michael78651

28 Sep 2015
09:32:28pm

re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

The following link will take you to a free download page where you can download and print out a sheet with number squares from 1 to 50. I use these for stock pages. I also use the StampoRama templates with various configurations with pre-numbered boxes.

Number Chart

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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

WoW !!!, an eighteen wheeler, and all on one side.

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29 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

I use Vario pages myself and scan them. I run them through Jasc (like photoshop) where I number them. I then take the numbered pages and pass them through Media Impression where I trim them. I could do that with Jasc, but its easier with Media Impression

Greg

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29 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

I insert numbers after scanning using a photo editing program. I tried making my own numbers before with pieces of paper, but it always ended up looking messy. I don't use the template pages because I don't want to hinge the stamps to the pages. The downside of numbering the pages with a photo editing program is you don't have the numbers in front of you when you go to remove stamps for buyers. What I do is I go to the books that I posted on Stamporama, so I can see the numbers and remove the correct stamps.

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Tom in Exton, PA
29 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

I only sell covers so I printed the SOR page with two spaces onto green card stock. I don't write on or change this page at all. In fact, three books later I'm using the same sheet. I just put two covers onto the sheet and scan it. Then I use a photo program called Irfanview to add text to the page. I'll add page description and number, add a description of each cover.

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29 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

"I don't use the template pages because I don't want to hinge the stamps to the pages."



Same here when I started out with the approval books. I used black stock pages. Then I ran across a bunch of clear pre-cut mounts (opened on three sides). I attached the mounts in each square to the template pages that I wanted to use. The pages are now "hingeless". I write catalog numbers and condition in pencil in each block. When I close a book, I remove the unsold stamps, erase the pencil markings and start anew.
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30 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

I guess I am doing it the lazy and easiest way. 99% of the stamps I sell in Approval Books have been previously hinged either from albums, stock books or old dealer approval books. Therefore - I just took the standard approval template that was available - make copies as I need them and hinge the stamps onto the pages. I simply just scan the pages and post. Of course if I have some MNH items (like sometimes I do with auctions here) - I would scan them stamp by stamp and would not even think of hinging them and not put them up as approvals. When I need to re-issue the book I just fill in the available spaces - re-scan and post. I guess with the volume of stamps I am selling here - I am not sure I would be able to do this any other way.

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30 Sep 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Well, you got to do it the way it works best for you and the material that you are offering.

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30 Sep 2015
06:20:45pm

re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Many thanks for everyone’s suggestions! I experimented yesterday and found a way to just drag numbers over to each stamp while I'm trimming and editing the scan in a publishing program I have. Much easier than cutting out those little pieces of paper! It's true that I don't then have the numbers on the actual page for easy reference, but I will be keeping digital copies of the books in a dedicated folder so I should be able to readily look them up.

Charlie, I did have a few questions about just how crazy you were when I first saw your comment about the 18-wheeler and had no clue what you were talking about, but after looking at Michael’s number chart my faith in your sanity has been restored. Thanks for a good chuckle!

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02 Oct 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Hi Guys,

Seems every one does it differently - All good of course.

I scan a page of stamps @ 300 DPI then adjust the brightness etc.., crop the image to reduce the size to 150DPI and 600pixels wide - I think this is a good size for viewing, uploading and also for manipulation of the image full size.

I then add the numbers using Photoshop (on my desktop) or Pixlemator (on my Lap top).

Then save as a jpg and I'm done.

All that sounds complex, but it is easy when you do a few....

The above I am happy with....

But my problem comes with a simpler storage solution, I also do not like hinges so - I just keep the stamps off each Approval Book page (up to say 40) together in a copy safe "Slide holder" 15 pages of stamps per (copy safe) page.

Problem with this method is: All the stamps for one page must be removed from the "slide" pocket to find the ones that are sold and later, resisting the un-sold ones may be a bit time consuming.

I'm thinking that Greg (soundcrest) has a better answer with the vario pages or maybe a stock book could be used - This would make for easy removal of sold stamps and easier restocking. ( I Guess ).

Cheers

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02 Oct 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Steve, I used to do similar like you with storing the stamps after the approval book was posted. That turned out to be a nightmare. Now I keep the stamps on the numbered pages and put the pages in a three-ring binder. Each approval book is separated by dividers. SOOOOOOOO much easier and saves SOOOOOOOOO much time fulfilling orders. The only draw back is the space needed if you have many approval books posted, but I can live with that problem!

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02 Oct 2015
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Hi michael78651,

All solutions are a compromise in some way - the trade off for me is Storage space against Time.

I'm retired and away from my home as much as I am at home so the Storage space is important to me and the time not so important.

I still like your idea of storage (as well as others) I will try it and see if it is good for me.Confused

Cheers

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I tried putting the numbers on the page with software, but it took me longer than the time it takes me use the slips of paper. I must be a glacially slow programmer!

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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

" I must be a glacially slow programmer! "



You're not the Lone Ranger in that regard!

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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

@ Theresa;

You probably just need more intuitive (easy to use) software.... Thinking
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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Hi Guys,

I find the "numbers" is the easy bit... But then I have been doing numbers since 1984..Thumbs Up

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Hi Tusken,

Do you mean.... Get a Mac..Big Grin

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Check out this thread... About pixelmator..

http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=8925#62541

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re: Newbie Question about inserting item numbers in approval books

Hi Stevo;

"Hi Tusken,

Do you mean.... Get a Mac.."



Not necessarily, but PC software is noted for being very obtuse and unnecessarily hard to use.

Most programmers unfortunately never use the software they create. Therefore they have no
clue as to what features are useful, and which ones are unnecessary and just bloat the appli-
cation's size and make it slow.

Probably some of the best software comes from shareware developers, who program to solve
a problem rather than trying to make big bucks.

Probably the reason that this site is so fast and works so well! Sorry if off topic tho....

Just my 2¢....
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