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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Poland overprints and more...

 

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Tobbe656
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16 May 2022
04:58:25pm

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Can anybody give some information about the Polsich stamps on the picture. I have rather many of hem so I have only picked one from each series. I also wonder if there´s any catalogue that lists all theese.
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16 May 2022
05:15:14pm
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You need to buy a copy of "Poland 1918 Locals" By J. Broadfoot Ltd. You'll find quite a bit of this material in there. One of these days I'm going to make an effort to get into this area, maybe! It seems very complicated and difficult to find. I think "PORTO" was used for postage due, but I'm not positive. Great looking material, it should be fun to research! I did find some of the pieces in the book mentioned above. Later, when I get a bit more time, I'll go through more carefully and make a list.

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16 May 2022
05:18:21pm

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There are many here I have never seen before. some I do recognise however. The third one from the third row is from central Lithuania. Next to it is a fake German propaganda overprint linked to the upper Silesia plebiscite. The fifth one on row 3 is an issue from the Polish corps in Italy, issued in 1946. These were valid for postage.

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16 May 2022
05:25:27pm

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The one with poczta miejska is a local and the Porto overprints are local postage dues. I also saw some revenue stamps in this lot. You may find some of these in Michel but not all of them

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17 May 2022
04:18:18am

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Thank you for the input. I´ll try and find the book that Harvey mentioned.
Poland has, not only lots of local overprints, also a lot of fakes and forgeries! I have just gone through Przedborz, Zarki and "Poczsta Polska" surcharges on Austrian stamps... And I still got a large envelope with Warsaw locals to get into :=)

I wonder why people has forged stamps that aren´t that valuable... For example Sudan overprint on Egypt 1897. I had rather many of them and when I examined them I found some stamps where the overprint clearly had been added upon the stamp. And that on stamps that Michel has in the range 1-3 Euros.
I just can´t get it...

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nigelc
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17 May 2022
04:46:11am
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Hi Tobbe656,

A lot of low value stamps were forged for the packet trade, especially if they were seen as being from interesting or exotic countries.

There were many examples in the 1920s for countries such as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Batum etc. where the profit wasn't from forging one stamp but in printing hundreds or thousands of complete sheets and selling the stamps in packets, as "five different for sixpence" to young and general collectors.

I have complete sheets of the Northern Army issue from the Russian Civil War; they look nice but they are forgeries too.

Another common example is the Western Army eagles from the same period which were probably printed in millions with many different forgeries.

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Tobbe656

16 May 2022
04:58:25pm

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Can anybody give some information about the Polsich stamps on the picture. I have rather many of hem so I have only picked one from each series. I also wonder if there´s any catalogue that lists all theese.
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16 May 2022
05:15:14pm

re: Poland overprints and more...

You need to buy a copy of "Poland 1918 Locals" By J. Broadfoot Ltd. You'll find quite a bit of this material in there. One of these days I'm going to make an effort to get into this area, maybe! It seems very complicated and difficult to find. I think "PORTO" was used for postage due, but I'm not positive. Great looking material, it should be fun to research! I did find some of the pieces in the book mentioned above. Later, when I get a bit more time, I'll go through more carefully and make a list.

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16 May 2022
05:18:21pm

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re: Poland overprints and more...

There are many here I have never seen before. some I do recognise however. The third one from the third row is from central Lithuania. Next to it is a fake German propaganda overprint linked to the upper Silesia plebiscite. The fifth one on row 3 is an issue from the Polish corps in Italy, issued in 1946. These were valid for postage.

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16 May 2022
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re: Poland overprints and more...

The one with poczta miejska is a local and the Porto overprints are local postage dues. I also saw some revenue stamps in this lot. You may find some of these in Michel but not all of them

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Tobbe656

17 May 2022
04:18:18am

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re: Poland overprints and more...

Thank you for the input. I´ll try and find the book that Harvey mentioned.
Poland has, not only lots of local overprints, also a lot of fakes and forgeries! I have just gone through Przedborz, Zarki and "Poczsta Polska" surcharges on Austrian stamps... And I still got a large envelope with Warsaw locals to get into :=)

I wonder why people has forged stamps that aren´t that valuable... For example Sudan overprint on Egypt 1897. I had rather many of them and when I examined them I found some stamps where the overprint clearly had been added upon the stamp. And that on stamps that Michel has in the range 1-3 Euros.
I just can´t get it...

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17 May 2022
04:46:11am

re: Poland overprints and more...

Hi Tobbe656,

A lot of low value stamps were forged for the packet trade, especially if they were seen as being from interesting or exotic countries.

There were many examples in the 1920s for countries such as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Batum etc. where the profit wasn't from forging one stamp but in printing hundreds or thousands of complete sheets and selling the stamps in packets, as "five different for sixpence" to young and general collectors.

I have complete sheets of the Northern Army issue from the Russian Civil War; they look nice but they are forgeries too.

Another common example is the Western Army eagles from the same period which were probably printed in millions with many different forgeries.

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